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Shill bidders at it again...

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  • Hintza
    Hintza Posts: 19,420 Forumite
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    bribrian wrote:
    That's cleared that up then, it's ok to act in the same way as money grabbing corrupt corporate companies and there was me thinking that people on this site were trying to save money & against these price-fixing monopolies..
    You learn something everyday................

    And I suppose you are on a higher level and don't need to make a living??!!
    I would be most interested in know how you make a living?

    Some of you make me laugh with this moral high ground you are trying to occupy.
  • bribrian
    bribrian Posts: 1,498 Forumite
    I'm just a lowly workshop joiner who works really hard & long hours for a living just to support my family. I don't claim to be a bastion for moral high ground, i just like to know that i'm not getting 'stroked' when trying to buy a product from whichever source....
    What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about !!!
  • Tojo_Ralph
    Tojo_Ralph Posts: 8,373 Forumite
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    What an interesting thread and IMHO, for what it's worth, bidding on another sellers goods with every intention of paying cannot possibly be deemed shill bidding. :xmassmile

    That said, to prove me right and others wrong :p, what is needed is a definitive "EBay Approved" response and the person to provide that should be Mr. Steve Oglethorpe, who is the Senior Policy Manager/Shill Bidding. If anyone wishes to pose the question, he can be contacted at policy_steve@ebay.com

    P.S. Merry Xmas all :xmassmile
    The MSE Dictionary
    Loophole - A word used to entice people to read clearly written Terms and Conditions.
    Rip Off - Clearly written Terms and Conditions.
    Terms and Conditions - Otherwise known as a loophole or a rip off.
  • jaffa30
    jaffa30 Posts: 19,263 Forumite
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    Tojo_Ralph wrote:
    What an interesting thread and IMHO, for what it's worth, bidding on another sellers goods with every intention of paying cannot possibly be deemed shill bidding. :xmassmile
    Of course its not.

    But bidding on competitors items either to sneak a cheap win ( theres no probs in that ) or ensure price integrity in the market I'm selling in, This may not be against ebays poicies but its defo wrong.

    We would be up in arms on here saying report report report a shill bidder, just coz hintza isnt bidding on one sellers items to keep the price equal they cant be reported legally for shill bidding

    As i have said i have often bought to sell on but i have never pushed prices up to make sure my items get the best price.





    Merry Christmas All

    Jaffa
    R.I.P Sam, still in my heart
  • Hintza
    Hintza Posts: 19,420 Forumite
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    jaffa30 wrote:
    As i have said i have often bought to sell on but i have never pushed prices up to make sure my items get the best price.

    If I win I pay; where's the problem. I am doing exactly what you do (to resell), I am just possibly more methodical in my approach. I know my market I know what I can afford to spend and I know what others are willing to pay. Thats why its called a market.....too cheap and I arbitrage it.

    Simple; no rules being broken and not wrong.
  • jaffa30
    jaffa30 Posts: 19,263 Forumite
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    Hintza i aint saying you aint paying and i cant see a problem at all with buying to resell.

    I do however see a problem with pushing prices up to make sure your items get the best price.


    I also know you aint breaking any given rules on shill bidding

    Jaffa
    R.I.P Sam, still in my heart
  • jaffa30
    jaffa30 Posts: 19,263 Forumite
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    Hintza TBH this thread is going round in circles.
    So i wont be posting again on this topic.

    I would like to wish you and yours a Happy Christmas And Have A Excellent Hogmanay


    Jaffa
    R.I.P Sam, still in my heart
  • bbruce
    bbruce Posts: 369 Forumite
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    "i just like to know that i'm not getting 'stroked' when trying to buy a product from whichever source...."
    Unfortunately, you get stroked every time you buy anything. See some prices in the sales you wouldn't have believed possible before Xmas but you can bet your boots they're still making a profit!
    This is the market economy - you have to be astute at the best of times and if you can manage some arbitrage, so much the better. Stoozing is also arbitrage and is practised by many MSEers who feel they are biting back, ethically or not, at rich corporations which do it to all and sundry at every opportunity.

    Learn from the mistakes of others - you won't live long enough to make them all yourself.
  • gromituk
    gromituk Posts: 3,087 Forumite
    bbruce wrote:
    Unfortunately, you get stroked every time you buy anything. See some prices in the sales you wouldn't have believed possible before Xmas but you can bet your boots they're still making a profit!

    That ain't necessarily so. They may need to sell the goods to clear out space for new lines, for instance.
    Time is an illusion - lunch time doubly so.
  • bbruce
    bbruce Posts: 369 Forumite
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    bribrian wrote:
    I'm not going to mention Hintza, this time (Doh! too late, just did) but a word just to say that strongbow270 is now no longer reg on ebay, after 103 feedbacks & 100%.........surely must have been naru'ed.........
    Was that a clue to Hintza's identity?
    Looks like his account has been reinstated and he's dealing succesfully in PS2s, Xboxes and peripherals!

    Learn from the mistakes of others - you won't live long enough to make them all yourself.
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