teenage proofing the internet

Uniscots97

aliEnRIK wrote: »

If you have sky its free (with limits)

Its usually cheapest combining the phone with the broadband package (TALK TALK for example)

Unfortunately I can't change away from BT for my phone (long story), do Sky do their package without you taking their phone line?

Uniscots97

Idiophreak wrote: »

The only real way to get this working is to be able to trust her to monitor herself...

If she's proven herself to be untrustworthy at school, I wouldn't bother even letting her try at home - if she needs access for homework or whatever, stand over her and see what she's doing....treating her like a little kid will wind her up quite a lot, but get across the importance of being able to trust her. After a while, tell her that you're going to give her your trust, give her a chance to prove herself - but make it clear that you don't want her looking at X, Y and Z - and that you don't want her meddling with the history.

Check the history every so often, if it's empty, ban her for X weeks again - and repeat. Could even go to some of the sites you don't want her on yourself - and see if the entries remain in the history.

Beyond that, you can (as above) ban keywords in the router - had moderate success with that (although, in my case, it's for use the other way round - I banned my mother from looking at certain sites...damn neighbours spoilers )...you could also buy a keylogger etc if you *really* want to know what she's up to...

But all these techy solutions really aren't a substitute for good old fashioned trust...

She can't be trusted unfortunately. She accesses Bebo at school even though they're not supposed to.

Uniscots97

phatbear wrote: »

Ooooo keyloggers are good installed one a few months ago and havent looked back, just dont tell the kids.

One maykor downside with a keylogger is probing too far, if you have your daughters email password do you "accidentaly" have a quick lookie lookie? Suppose its all a matter of trust.

all the best

the bear

where do I get a good keylogger? or possibly any out there that are free?

Uniscots97

Conor wrote: »

ADSL24. 1 monthly rolling renewal contracts. So if you want to cancel, you can just log onto the Control Panel and do it online and you've got the balance of the month left and then you can leave.

Are they expensive?

Uniscots97

going2die_rich wrote: »

What exactly are you trying to stop your daughter from? I can understand son's, as it's obvious what you want them staying off, but for girls I am guessing it's chatrooms? As if it is, chatrooms are everywhere. Not a chance you'd be able to block them all.

Best solution would be to just have it in a room you are all in so you can see it. No webcam either in case she ends up on a site.

Tell her friends lists on messengers can only contain people she actually knows from school and home. Also ensure she isn't giving her mobile number out or has any personal details about her on any sites she signs up to. best solution being telling her to make some up that she will always use while online.

Think you need to build trust rather than police her as she'll only become more sneaky if you are trying to prevent her doing something.

Boys on the other hand, you know what they will be up to and at the end of the day, they could be up to a lot worse off the pc.

She's always been sneaky and after finding out that she's on Bebo in school when its meant to be blocked (and she's supposed to be doing her class work etc etc), she also got into her brother's account (on Bebo) and caused total mayhem he still hasn't forgiven her for what she wrote as him.

Yes I know we should trust her but I think she's got to earn that trust back. I also know in the past she's been on rather dubious sites shall we say. Not something I approve of and hence why I'm on here.

aliEnRIK

unixgirluk wrote: »

Its VISTA which I'm not that familiar with, she's not allowed anywhere near my work pc which is XP.

Well if you set up YOUR account as an administrator (making sure she will NEVER find or figure out your password) and make sure ALL log ins are password protected (So she cant use anyone elses)
And hers as normal. Then go about setting the PARENTAL CONTROLS of her log in. You can also view the ACTIVITY REPORTS whenever shes been on (I did this for my mates lad, and hed been on LOADS of.......erm......sites )

vivaladiva

Don't want to hijack this thread, but has anyone tried Parents-in-control (http://www.pic-pc.com/)? It's quite cheap and has some good features, but I have to admit I found the invaision of privacy issue made me a little uncomfortable.

mustrum_ridcully

unixgirluk wrote: »

She's always been sneaky and after finding out that she's on Bebo in school when its meant to be blocked (and she's supposed to be doing her class work etc etc), she also got into her brother's account (on Bebo) and caused total mayhem he still hasn't forgiven her for what she wrote as him.

Yes I know we should trust her but I think she's got to earn that trust back. I also know in the past she's been on rather dubious sites shall we say. Not something I approve of and hence why I'm on here.

Wow sounds like you have your work cut out. I'll send you a PM about how she might be able to get around any windows based restrictions - don't want to post it here incase problem teenagers stumbling upon it via google.

Jakg

Simple solution - LiveCD.

Job done.

At the end of the day this really is a losing battle - what, specifically, are you worried about?

phatbear

You can get a keylogger here:

http://www.download.com/Free-KGB-Key-Logger/3000-2162_4-10357898.html

i was reading another post saying about how boys are the ones to watch Im not ok with the boy looking at "adult" stuff but it will happen if not at home ten at a mates house, hell its all most like a rite of passage, i dont condone it but im not ingnorant enough to think hes not looking.

Anyway recently I was asked to look into my other halfs daughters activity and it was more of an eye opener than checking the boys history in fact someone had been emailing her thanks to some stupid game they always play on myspace and she has accepted one of her teammates as a friend, i suppose when your 13 anyone who talks to you is a friend, however the emails, which she wasnt replying to, got warmer and warmer, anyway the moral of this story is girlies can be as bad, if not worse than little boys for net activity, the main difference appears to be that young girls easily get sucked into some weirdos fantasies, suffice to say the chap was dealt with and she has been put right, ie for not telling us.

so for me i can always justify the presence of a keylogger, they both claim its intrusive however my argument is if you have nothing to hide then it wont matter.

all the best

the bear