What counts as disability?

LauraLeah91104

the larger supermarkets do employ parking attendants now, i work for ASDA and we employ TCP.(town and city parking)
Ive shopped at tesco before and they have recently put signs up to say the car park is monitored however i have actually yet to witness this personally.
the only problem is, yes you may get a ticket from them, but because it isnt issued from a council, i.e the parking offence didnt happen on council land or the ticket was issued by a council parking warden then the ticket isnt inforceable in the eye of the law. there fore people who park in these bays who are not entitled to do so, do so knowing they may get a ticket, and they dont care if they do as they know nothing will come of it!
It really gets me so annoyed as both my gran and grandad are both registered diasbled and both have a blue badge, and many a time they have been unable to park in a disable space because they were fll of cars not displaying the badges,or lazy people with kids thinking they can use the disabled spaces because they couldn't get parked in mum and toddler spaces.
he has many a time been verbally abused by some fol mouthed little mouthy sod when my grandad has queried his 'disability' as he jogs back to his car from either the cash point, or after nipping in to by a couple of crates of larger!

Richie-from-the-Boro

Overstaying parking charges [example PPC administered Hospitals] are based on an assumed contract that in fact doesn't exist, therefore the landowner or PPC are only legally entitled to reclaim any lost parking charges e.g £3.00 [in the case of my local Hospital] and not throw in alleged 'Fines' of £40 or more, halved if paid within 14 days etc etc etc.

Those claims simply do not stand up in Court, haven't done and never will.

As for supermarkets, it's down to each individual ownership - and yes ASDA are one of the few that do 'gently' enforce at great cost to themselves, and should rightly be applauded for so doing.

Anyone not displaying should be reported and fined, that of course does not happen, but everyone not correctly displaying should be asked to move including a registered Blue Badge holder.

Ghostlove

ceegra wrote: »

i too am disabled, but confined to wheelchair, i thought the blue badge scheme was brought in for those who could not walk a great distant without aids?

i use the disabled toilets in supermarkets and get agravated why folk without being in a wheelchair uses them :T

Some of us don't (or don't always) use a wheelchair but are still disabled. You can't tell by looking at us which of us is in agony. You can't tell by looking at us which of us has a chronic illness which means we are likely to sh*t our pants unless we get into a toilet right now. You can't tell which of us desperately need the rails and handles inside the disabled toilet to help us get down onto the seat and then back up off of it again.

cherylherrall

Ghostlove wrote: »

Some of us don't (or don't always) use a wheelchair but are still disabled. You can't tell by looking at us which of us is in agony. You can't tell by looking at us which of us has a chronic illness which means we are likely to sh*t our pants unless we get into a toilet right now. You can't tell which of us desperately need the rails and handles inside the disabled toilet to help us get down onto the seat and then back up off of it again.

This is so true. i need the rails in the toilets to get up and down off the loo, but i only use a walking stick not a wheelchair. So many people say "you dont look ill" but inside i'm in a load of pain.

born2bongo

Mum lives alone and has osteoporosis. Since a fall and a subsequent hip replacement 4 years ago she has lost strength in her arms and legs, and is not easily able to lift her legs. She is active for 84, walking the dog twice a day and gardening as best she can, but getting into the bath is extremely difficult and even stepping into a shower tray is awkward

She has wanted to replace the bath with a wet room but is very short of money and the kind of help she has been offered consists of seats fitted to the bath, ignoring that she can't get into it!

My brothers and I have finally persuaded Mum to have the bathroom converted and are funding two thirds of it, much to her distress. Work starts on Wednesday but meanwhile she learned she might be able to avoid VAT. She has got a form from HMRC and has to sign a declaration that she is disabled in the meaning of the act, describing her condition. The wording is the same as at the top of this board. It carries with it a suitably dire warning should she misrepresent herself. The document is vague, is aimed more at the supplier than the disabled person, and specifically excludes frailty in the elderly.

We are unable to decide if the osteoporosis and hip replacement count as disability or frailty. I would personally err on the disabled side given her other activities. Mum is terrified that she might fall foul of the authorities if they didn't agree with this interpretation. The tax office have been no help to her, and appear to be trained to discourage people from claiming

She/we really can't afford to pass up what will amount to £1500 when the work is done.

Has anyone had a similar experience?

canitbeme

I have been "Disabled" since 1997 due to a spinal fusion opperation due to severe spondylosisis. Op wasnt the success I had hoped for and I still have severe pian and restricted movement.I also had a heart attack in 2001 and had a arteirial stent implanted. I now have four stents implanted due to ongoing severe angina.I still suffer bad angina attacks but no longer call for ambulance or hospital help as advised by my GP,as I was getting the impression that I was wasting the proffesionals time being kept in overnight the released next morning.Because of this I have no "hospital" or Consultants proof of my conditions and am always having to try to prove my disabilities to people (also government departments) and feel that I should just hide away and not be seen or heard

[Deleted User]

Thank you for displaing this definintion. I am amazed to learn that I have officially been disabled for many years due to deafness and short term memory problems.
It is only now that I had a major fit that anyone suggested I might be eligible for any benefit. The form is very poor as it asks me questions does not give defintions of the terms used in the questions.

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Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

Overstaying parking charges [example PPC administered Hospitals] are based on an assumed contract that in fact doesn't exist, therefore the landowner or PPC are only legally entitled to reclaim any lost parking charges e.g £3.00 [in the case of my local Hospital] and not throw in alleged 'Fines' of £40 or more, halved if paid within 14 days etc etc etc.

Those claims simply do not stand up in Court, haven't done and never will.

As for supermarkets, it's down to each individual ownership - and yes ASDA are one of the few that do 'gently' enforce at great cost to themselves, and should rightly be applauded for so doing.

Anyone not displaying should be reported and fined, that of course does not happen, but everyone not correctly displaying should be asked to move including a registered Blue Badge holder.

If you have a Blue Badge then you can register with an ALDI store.
Our local ALDI supermarket has secret cameras. They tried to charge me because we had gone over the permitted 90 minutes. It was only when I complained to their head office that they explained the system. Now their computer will recognise my number plate and not issue a penalty charge.
Beware NHS hospitals if some of the parking is behind automatic gates. Once you go through a gate then disabled people get charged.

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babushkava wrote: »

Well, Olokia, I have Ehlers-Danlos too and find it odd that all the definitions of disability don't even touch on hypermobility syndrome. People do not generally understand that it is at least as troublesome to be over-mobile as to have limited mobility. For example, I can't stand in a queue for more than about 5 minutes, because my spine will buckle painfully and it will remain painful for 24 hours or more. So that's airports, railways and most supermarkets out of the question. Then carrying stuff, OK if it's two well-balanced light bags of four pounds weight, for a few minutes, not a problem. But no suitcases, heavy carrier bags, backpacks or electric drills. Then there is bending, one careful bend is OK, eg to get milk out of the fridge. A physio told me 9 bends a day, maximum. But sometimes on the second time of bending, my spine buckles and I am 24 hours in pain, tablets or not. I could not live alone, as my walking tolerance is about ten minutes and the challenge of shopping, which would have to be daily, because of weight limits for carrying, would be likely to trigger a spinal buckle if there was a wait in the shop at all, or nowhere to sit down. If I stretch upwards, without planning the distance, that's my back into spasm. There are so many normal activities I can't do and places that I cannot go. I would like a blue badge, so that I could park a couple of minutes from the shops and this would give me some extra minutes to collect items in the shop. It would also mean that I could make several trips back to the car, rest and then return to the shop. But I can walk more than 50 yards without a stick, probably about 100 yards, on a better day, I wonder why there is no scope to help people like us?

Do something that puts you in pain just before the assessor asks you to walk a few yards. Many years ago I applied but was asked to walk only a few yards acros a room. The distance was much less than getting from the car park !
I was a bit macho so tried hard and not grimace when it hurt.
BIG MISTAKE. They failed me.
A few years later I tried again but did not put on a brave front. I passed.

celiacelia226

Heart unhealthy is not a disability than a disability is more pathetic it