I Sold an Item SNAD but Can't Find it in The Dispute Console

asharon

That's very nosey of you to ask.

stone7

asharon wrote: »

That's very nosey of you to ask.

Touchě, Shazza, though I would have thought you would have seen the distinction between me asking a question about the methodology of Paypal and custardly getting the hump and bandying accusations around because I wouldn't share my "thought processes". Asking how the system works is fair enough. Asking why one wants to know how the system works is a step too far.........in my (not so) humble opinion.

custardy

how a system works and working the system are two different things

stone7

custardy wrote: »

how a system works and working the system are two different things

I disagree. Going back to my HYPERTHETICAL query. If I was to refuse the package, it is then returned to sender who then contacts Paypal to say "I sent item, he refused to accept, therefore I have no proof of delivery." Paypal tell him that the refund will not be forthcoming as he can't prove delivery. That is the system. I have worked the system from within the framework of the system making them one and the same and as it is my "right" to refuse to sign for the delivery, as I see it, I have not broken the law....or even a rule.

I'm afraid that, as far as ebay is concerned, guile and cunning beats rules and regulations.

Nex0

I think this thread should be locked.

Its pretty obvious the seller is trying to get out of giving a refund even thlough they have admitted they made the mistake in the first place.

But yes please do give us your seller id so we can make sure we don't buy anything of you.

Hintza

So you just want to steal the guys money, is that what you are saying?

That is easy just hope he doesn't send it back tracked then you can say you never received the item back and you will win the case. Is that what you want to hear?

Typical attitude in this country just now.

Chippy_Minton_2

stone7 wrote: »

I'm afraid that, as far as ebay is concerned, guile and cunning beats rules and regulations.

You sound nothing short of a common thief. I hope the buyer plays the system better than you and F%*$s you over. If so please post on here so we can have a good laugh but don't expect any advice. Sellers like you have spolit ebay.

custardy

Hintza wrote: »

So you just want to steal the guys money, is that what you are saying?

That is easy just hope he doesn't send it back tracked then you can say you never received the item back and you will win the case. Is that what you want to hear?

Typical attitude in this country just now.

last time someone tried a similar notion with me on ebay they failed to see we were only living 15 miles apart
easily resolved with a visit.i dont encourage this for everyone but if you want to steal from me then you had better be able to back it up

stone7

Nex0 wrote: »

Its pretty obvious the seller is trying to get out of giving a refund even thlough they have admitted they made the mistake in the first place.

Without going over the thread with a fine tooothed comb, I can recall 3 times mentioning that the buyer will get a full refund, including the non obligatory return postage. Please point out where I state my intention is to "get out" of offering said refund.

Hintza wrote: »

So you just want to steal the guys money, is that what you are saying?

That is easy just hope he doesn't send it back tracked then you can say you never received the item back and you will win the case. Is that what you want to hear?

What makes you think I intend to steal this guy's money?

I know the rules and regs when a parcel is returned untracked....that is why I never asked that question. I wanted to hear a straight answer to the question posed. I now know the answer thanks to the PM system.

Chippy_Minton wrote: »

You sound nothing short of a common thief. I hope the buyer plays the system better than you and F%*$s you over. If so please post on here so we can have a good laugh but don't expect any advice. Sellers like you have spolit ebay.

I've dumbed down enough replying to Nexo and Hintza. I have to draw the line somewhere so I'm afraid Chippo, I can only leave you with this little puzzler. I said (and you quoted me) "I'm afraid that, as far as ebay is concerned, guile and cunning beats rules and regulations." The word 'afraid' in that sentence........does that tell you I think guile and cunning beating rules and regulations is a good thing or a bad thing?

stone7

custardy wrote: »

last time someone tried a similar notion with me on ebay they failed to see we were only living 15 miles apart
easily resolved with a visit.i dont encourage this for everyone but if you want to steal from me then you had better be able to back it up

Oh, do shut up.