Incapacity Benefit

sospanfach1

Get back to basics people if husband is hospital consultant why would she want to work???? They can afford to live without what op said was pocket money from taxpayers.we are going back to original post i have paid shed fuls of tax over the years whats the difference i havent contributed over the las two
I think the inmates are starting to take over the asylum

Oldernotwiser

sospanfach1 wrote: »

,nobody is saying people on IB should,nt be able to live "normal" lives but as you say going to the pub every day ,SKY tv ,holidays abroad,come on now how can anyond condone that,Benefits are supposed to be a safety net to help people who genuinely get into trouble not to fund a very comfortable lifestyle.

Yes, but if you'd been able to get IB as you wanted, people would say "Look at that Sospanfach guy; he gets IB and he owns 4 properties. Benefits are supposed to be a safety net, not to fund somebody's property empire." I don't mean to be rude but many people would be as cross about this as you are when people spend their money on all the things you list above.
What's the difference?

viktory

SDW - can I ask a question? It's personal, so please feel free to refuse to answer. I see that you live in Spain so is your husband under a psychiatrist in Spain or does he come back to England for treatment or does he have no ongoing treatment?

sospanfach1

exactly,a safety net, i realise after this forum that i am lucky,but what i am saying is why should somebody with £100,000 income still qualify for IB, it should be means tested,and only the people who really need it be able to get it

sospanfach1

the difference is oldernotwiser i had paid in to the system these people never worked in their lives never contributed a penny to the social system so why should they be allowed to get any benefit when they are not interested in even looking for work " just go on the sick" as they say.Its endemic now in our society something for nothing,and the politically correct do gooders fall for it every time,if they want benefit give them food vouchers not cash,because cash goes on booze,fags and the betting shop

healy

I think it is getting to the point where this thread needs to move to the discussion forum if any mods are looking.

seven-day-weekend

viktory wrote: »

SDW - can I ask a question? It's personal, so please feel free to refuse to answer. I see that you live in Spain so is your husband under a psychiatrist in Spain or does he come back to England for treatment or does he have no ongoing treatment?

He is under a doctor in Spain, has ongoing treatment here and when his questionnaire comes it is bi-lingual and if he has to have a medical (not had one in Spain yet) it will be with an English-speaking Dr. He is not allowed to access the British NHS as we are residents in Spain.

It is apparently against EU law for sickness and disability benefits not to be transportable across the EU. The UK have just been told they have to let people carry over DLA (care component) and Carers' Allowance which people couldn't get before if they did not live in the IK.

moggylover

sospanfach1 wrote: »

Get back to basics people if husband is hospital consultant why would she want to work???? They can afford to live without what op said was pocket money from taxpayers.we are going back to original post i have paid shed fuls of tax over the years whats the difference i havent contributed over the las two
I think the inmates are starting to take over the asylum

One could say exactly the same to you sospanfach. I have read you criticising other people and ignored it: and yet you came on here to see if there was any way that you could claim benefits instead of having to liquidise any of your own substantial assets to support yourself. Please tell me where this differs? The fact that you have payed "shed fulls of tax" does not alter the fact that you are not entitled to IB because your last contributions were too long ago, and you would not be entitled to any of the means tested benefits because you have assets which are not essential to keeping a roof over your head. This puts you in a comfortable position to provide your own income: much like the consultant mentioned in the above post.

My parents down sized their home in order to have some extra money for their retirement, and they had worked hard ever since they were 14 years old (1936 for my father and 1947 for my mother). My mother not only worked until she was 68, but she nursed my mother with the same degenerative neurological disorder that is gradually destroying my life. My father retired at 65 with angina, and following a hip replacement operation. The only "benefit" they ever claimed was their state pension, although my mum did get pension credit as well for the last few years of her life, and the fuel bonus as well.

moggylover

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Unfortunately, information can be misused. For every genuine claimant who is helped to claim, there may be another non genuine person who uses the information fraudulently. I don't know the answer to this and I don't think anyone else does either.

I quite see your point, but I suspect that if they just worded the forms less ambiguously/more honestly then they would end up no worse off on the claims and a VAST amount better off on the appeals and tribunals administration costs.

The administration costs involved in benefits far exceeds the amounts actually paid out in benefits as it is - these extra costs could at least be one less burden on the tax payer.