Recycling - whats the difference?

savemoney

My council provides a service for that but you have to pay for a brown bin or use there own bags and £1 per 10. I also use a composter who its often full.

I do give some of my compost away, have you thought of that is excellent for gardens, why not ask on freeycle if you do get a composter

spankymonkey wrote: »

i have quite a big lawn and in the summer its a pain to get rid of the grass cuttings (i was thinking of getting a composter but we wouldnt need the compost) my local council has just introduced another recycle bin for grass cuttings garden waste etc. but at a price of £36 a year! other councils have this bin emptied for free..........

oldone_2

DCFC79 wrote: »

dont waitrose offer recylcing facilities for glass, we have to do the same for any plastic bottles and fruit juice cartons when we go to tesco and i dont have a problem with it,

It is a small branch with no recycling facilities of any kind.

oldone_2

Sailor_Sam wrote: »

Oldone i think that is a ridiculous comment to make, ok a lot of councils could do a lot more, but they need the help of their residents. With a little luck, if we all recycled more our council taxes may be kept down, but i don't think that is the main reason we need to do it. Recycling, just like street-lighting and the library is a service , why should'nt we be paying for it. It is a benefit that we receive !
Just in case you don't quite understand, the benefit we get from recycling is, we are helping to save the Earth.
Our planets resources are finite, we have no right to use them up, we are only guardians in temporary control, we need to pass the planet onto future generations.
You are not recycling for your benefit, you are doing it for the benefit of your children and grandchildren. Are you really saying you are not willing to pay a little for them to have a better future.
This is a pet hate of mine, i think maybe i do go a bit over the top sometimes, i go out of my way to recycle everything and anything that i can, even the till receipt from Asda goes in with the papers.
I'm not doing this for my benefit, i'm 55, i'll be dead by the time it matters. I'm not doing it for my children, i don't have any. Now i think about it i'm probably going out of my way, and paying a little extra so that your grandchildren have a better life.

With all due respect this purge on recycling has nothing to do with saving the planet, or making the future better for our children.It is all about money.The E.U set recycling targets for councils, and fine them if they don't meet them.

If refuse depots were revamped with modern machinery and extra staff, ALL rubbish would be recycled.However this would cost the councils money, so they reduce collections to once every two weeks, fine people who don't play along, all so that they can meet their targets.

I am paying the council to dispose of my rubbish.If they can't or won't do this to my satisfaction (not theirs), then I want the option to purchase this service from a private company with corresponding reduction in Council Tax.Of course this will never happen as the Councils have a near monopoly and can provide whatever level of service they decide, not what the consumer wants.

Until manufacturers reduce packaging they use, this recycling nonsense will get worse; and is certainly not helped by the passive members of our society who blindly swallow all these emotive and incorrect arguments about saving the planet and preventing global warming.

chipmunk

oldone wrote: »

I refuse to recycle period. Why should I spend time, money ,effort and petrol doing what my council taxes pay the council to do.

To give you an idea of how stupid it all is, my council don't collect glass bottles for recycling.They want me to use my car and petrol,polluting the atmosphere to take them to a bottle bank 3 miles away. No way.

All recycling should be done at the local tip which is far more efficient, cost effective, and would enable the councils to meet the E.U imposed landfill targets.

I accidentally clicked "thanks" on this post:o

wallbash

I'm agreeing with oldone on this.

My little moan / question
If I have a busy day in the garden and fill my green recycling bin

THEN fill another container with green waste , why will the collectors only take one bin.????
Seems we can only recycle to very very strict rules.
Every time we read about people being fined for the 'wrong' rubbish in the wrong bin. Or the poor guy fined for leaving his bin lid open
Or if the bin is too heavy
Or if its not in exactly the right place

Makes you want to say :mad: to it!

mrposhman

Recycling gets my back up. Its so easy to make profitable, why do you think that all companies like Biffa / Sita are doing it?? To be nice?? To help the planet?? Nope, its to make more profit.

Search on the web for anaerobic digesters, a great invention that will make profits immediately, which will slowly eat away at the initial investment.

The people to blame for the completely adhoc way that we recycle is the government. Take a read of the waste strategy released in May 2007. Guess how much has changed due to this report?? You've guessed it, not one jot.

Anyway, to my point and what THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE DOING is not allowing the councils to decide on their own recycling programmes, they should be helping councils to produce a JOINED UP approach which enables more and more different types of plastic / food waste / cardboard to be recycled not the current farce where some recycle this, some recycle that but not everything.

My view is that though part government / part industry funded projects, councils could share recycling facilities including anaerobic digesters which would help to supplement our energy needs.

Recently in London, the LDA (I think) authorised the setting up of 6 new incinerators in London, these are a cheap version of digesters where they burn the waste off but there is no energy creation. Yes it helps release less methane but is not the most efficient way. Had the government actually showed they were bothered (instead of just stating political clap trap like we are used to ) then maybe, just maybe we may have got anaerobic digesters in London which could have contributed in an environmentally friendly way to the capitals power consumption.

In my opinion, that department should be scrapped and everything it does including budgets should be outsourced to a private firm. Only then will we receive the joined up recycling strategy that we deserve.

Debt_Free_Chick

oldone wrote: »

Until manufacturers reduce packaging they use, this recycling nonsense will get worse; and is certainly not helped by the passive members of our society who blindly swallow all these emotive and incorrect arguments about saving the planet and preventing global warming.

Fully agree with this. If there were less packaging in the first place, then recycling would not be necessary. I also object to the "Green Police" shaming me into recycling, when my focus is on reducing and reusing first! :mad:

I'm also of the opinion - based on nothing more than a gut feel, so don't ask me to post a link :mad: - that even if every consumer recycled everything, it would make very little difference. Industry has to produce less of the stuff we're being asked to recycle. Just don't f***ing produce the rubbish in the first place! :mad: Do you really need to buy a piece of meat which sits on a sanitary towel in a plastic tray wrapped in another piece of plastic? My butcher wraps my meat in a piece of greaseproof paper and shoves it my hand (metaphorically speaking - he would actually put it in my bag, if I wanted).

And another thing ..... make doorstep delivery of milk in glass bottles compulsory - no sales of week-old milk in plastic cartons. Ban "bottled water" (!!!!!! is that?). Fruit & veg to be sold "loose" ...... God, I'm beginning to sound like my mother :eek:

Tozer

Sailor_Sam wrote: »

Oldone i think that is a ridiculous comment to make, ok a lot of councils could do a lot more, but they need the help of their residents. With a little luck, if we all recycled more our council taxes may be kept down, but i don't think that is the main reason we need to do it. Recycling, just like street-lighting and the library is a service , why should'nt we be paying for it. It is a benefit that we receive !
Just in case you don't quite understand, the benefit we get from recycling is, we are helping to save the Earth.
Our planets resources are finite, we have no right to use them up, we are only guardians in temporary control, we need to pass the planet onto future generations.
You are not recycling for your benefit, you are doing it for the benefit of your children and grandchildren. Are you really saying you are not willing to pay a little for them to have a better future.
This is a pet hate of mine, i think maybe i do go a bit over the top sometimes, i go out of my way to recycle everything and anything that i can, even the till receipt from Asda goes in with the papers.
I'm not doing this for my benefit, i'm 55, i'll be dead by the time it matters. I'm not doing it for my children, i don't have any. Now i think about it i'm probably going out of my way, and paying a little extra so that your grandchildren have a better life.

I agree. We are not going to change overnight national (and international) requirements in respect of recycling. What we can do though is do our own little bit.

Really can't understand those that can't be bothered to recycle in this day and age - particularly those that try and put the value of Council Tax spin on things.

peachyprice

callas wrote: »

Does it really matter? I thought the whole point of recycling was as long as it was cardboard it shouldn't matter if I am a cattery or run a business? No wonder fly tipping is on the up.

Yes it does really matter, if you are a business you are not allowed to put your waste in with domestic rubbish, it's an offence under the The Duty of Care law, section 34 of the Environmental Protection Act 1990 and attracts a fine of £300.

Sailor_Sam

Well not everything you say is rubbish oldone, i must agree about the amount of excess packaging, but with all due respect, let me just read the title of this thread again, 'recycling-whats the difference', so it is not just about money, it is about recycling, whats the difference, is it worth it, is it a good thing, or is it a bad thing.
Well if we are getting some benefit from it, it must be good. It's a pity it costs us, and it depends where you stand if you think the cost is worth it, so money does come into the equation, we must all make a personal choice to what we are prepared to pay.
Should we save our papers, or chop the rainforest down, oh to hell with the wildlife, and the fact its a CO2 sink, its not near us, lets burn it. What do mean recycle my plastic bags, i'm alright jack, there's plenty more oil in the ground to make more. Going off thread a bit but, why should i allow them to put a windfarm at the back of my house, there's loads of coal in the ground.
The recycling rates in the UK are by far the worst in Europe
because there are to many people who can't be bothered, are to lazy, sorry i mean busy, to sort out their rubbish.
Just for the record, i live in Knowsley. In the latest league tables for councils recycling rates, out of 393 councils, we are at 385, that's not to bad though, those lazy scoucers next door in Liverpool are at 392.