Anyone else watching agricultural land prices?

Davesnave

rozeepozee wrote: »

Are we all watching the same websites? I'm addicted to the smallholding centre's

West Wales
Rural Scene
Morgan & Davies
Evans Bros
JJ Morris
West Wales Properties
Profile homes
Bob Jones Prytherch
Sterling Properties
John Francis
Clee Tompkinson Francis (Terrible geographers)
Coast & Country Estates
Terry Thomas
Frank Vaughan
and a few others, but I don't go as far north as Aberystwyth.

Devon/Cornwall/South West
Stags
Phillips Smith & Dunn
Miller Countrywide
Fox Grant
Nancekivell & Co
Kivells Property
Greenslade Taylor Hunt
There's also (Lilli)crap Chilcott, who are full of BS
and others I've 'forgotten' due to dodgy experiences, mainly years ago!

Generali

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I plan to install a reeds system to catch storm water and grey water and turn it into something I can reuse ultimately as water is a problem in Aus.

The City of Adelaide has done the same thing on a massive scale, the plan being to use all the storm water that goes down the storm drains right now as drinking water.

fc123

Generali wrote: »

I plan to install a reeds system to catch storm water and grey water and turn it into something I can reuse ultimately as water is a problem in Aus.

The City of Adelaide has done the same thing on a massive scale, the plan being to use all the storm water that goes down the storm drains right now as drinking water.

It all sounds like a good system to me. Also perfect for Aus being so dry.

Still got 5 years to convince him that eco living somewhere remote could be fun.......it's all compromise :rolleyes: but I don't think I am going to win this one.

Generali

fc123 wrote: »

It all sounds like a good system to me. Also perfect for Aus being so dry.

Still got 5 years to convince him that eco living somewhere remote could be fun.......it's all compromise :rolleyes: but I don't think I am going to win this one.

Well we certainly 'do' remote here. If the nice weather would persuade him.....

rozeepozee

Davesnave wrote: »

West Wales
Rural Scene
Morgan & Davies
Evans Bros
JJ Morris
West Wales Properties
Profile homes
Bob Jones Prytherch
Sterling Properties
John Francis
Clee Tompkinson Francis (Terrible geographers)
Coast & Country Estates
Terry Thomas
Frank Vaughan
and a few others, but I don't go as far north as Aberystwyth.

Devon/Cornwall/South West
Stags
Phillips Smith & Dunn
Miller Countrywide
Fox Grant
Nancekivell & Co
Kivells Property
Greenslade Taylor Hunt
There's also (Lilli)crap Chilcott, who are full of BS
and others I've 'forgotten' due to dodgy experiences, mainly years ago!

Ah, Dave you're a gem - maybe we'll end up being neighbours!

Pee

GDB2222 wrote: »

I'm a city dweller and trying to get my head around this. Can somebody just fill me in if I have got this wrong:-

1. There are houses around that are set aside for agricultural workers, and these are *a lot* cheaper than understricted houses.

2. If you buy one of these and you are not an agricultural worker, what happens? Do they come and cut your balls off so that you'll be less trouble in the future? Or do you just get fined? Or turfed out?

3. If you have a bit of land with the house, you can become an agricultural worker? Does it matter how much land, whether you are farming it for profit, how much of your time you spend on it?

4. If you have a restricted house and you can't sell it, you can have the restriction removed? Too good to be true!

As to how they find out, some councils will write to all the properties about once every five years... and the particularly bored council I'm thinking of even went through wedding photographs in the local papers, that's how they caught one person out...

lostinrates

I'm really glad this has been a happy thread.

I love the idea of hobbit houses. I also horrify DH every once in a while with back of envelope calculations of how to look at a less unaesthetic than the norm approach to agricultural buildings. Even a small change like green roofs would be such an improvement to other countryside users.

I'm well and truley sold on the reed bed sewage system FWIW.

Davesnave

lostinrates wrote: »

I'm really glad this has been a happy thread.

I love the idea of hobbit houses. I also horrify DH every once in a while with back of envelope calculations of how to look at a less unaesthetic than the norm approach to agricultural buildings. Even a small change like green roofs would be such an improvement to other countryside users.

I'm well and truley sold on the reed bed sewage system FWIW.

Hi LIR, long time no post! I'm keen on any water & sewage system that is independent of the local water board. I've only seen one reed bed system in the local area, but I've come across quite a few bio-discs.

Currently renting while DD finishes at college. The only thing we own now is 1/3 of our old garden, which is where I have the big greenhouse. All options remain open. Are you seeing some decent reductions in your target areas yet?

I'm glad it was a happy thread too. There's been a lot of bad tempered stuff on here lately and I've just kept a low profile!

lostinrates

Davesnave wrote: »

Hi LIR, long time no post! I'm keen on any water & sewage system that is independent of the local water board. I've only seen one reed bed system in the local area, but I've come across quite a few bio-discs.

Currently renting while DD finishes at college. The only thing we own now is 1/3 of our old garden, which is where I have the big greenhouse. All options remain open. Are you seeing some decent reductions in your target areas yet?

I'm glad it was a happy thread too. There's been a lot of bad tempered stuff on here lately and I've just kept a low profile!

I do not like the aggressive stuff. I'm very unhappy about what I have read of it. I debate my commitment and enjoyment from this board now....I've been busy with good stuff and less great stuff, but I'm ok..but yes, long time no post, probably won't be on for the rest of the week after today either.

I'm seeing more realistic pricing on lots of things. If I wanted a straight up traditional enterprise there is lots dropping to a more realsitic level, and in a stable market some of the nice options would offer a modest scale practise run and moving on in a few years. But, its not a stable market and typically, what I want is more complicated, so existing equine buildings are of no use to me in the long term, but planning for similar plus the agricultural buildings- if they don't already exist- which is what would be ideal, for stage 2 , and a house, on the kind of land I'm after is not so easy

DH thinks we should talk to a 'green' architect at this stage, to have something to approach different councils with and make contacts before making enquiries about specific planning applications. Its not a traditional schedule, but what we are doing is both very untraditional and of course, deeply traditional!:o I'm dealing with other things ATM, but I'm increasingly itchy footed, and apart from wondering how the hell we'll get it all done I do want to start giving it my best go soon! Be warned, any aspirational small holders/green livers might well be called in for [STRIKE]cheap labour[/STRIKE] experience gaining for themselves.:rotfl:

Conrad

lostinrates wrote: »

I don't know much about the soil and geology in Cumbria...less fertile, thinner soil does better for wildflowers in general. The land I use ATM is wonderful for biodiversity. DH got a bit frustrated with my 1 metre phots this year, recording with great delight the huge diversity in not ust wildflowers but grasses. I have to pull anything poisonous. But, this has had the right light touch management for over thirty years. Topped twice a year and grazed with a pretty low stocking density most years and then given a bit of a hammering, which looks ugly at the time (and cattle farmers would be horrified!) but the exposed soil and the disturbance thereof allows seed to fall. Its also been un fertilised, possibly ever. This suits horses, and sheep would do ok, but cows would not do well on this type of land at all. To create a wildflower meadow IS posible, but depending on the area/soil/flowers /grazes/previous use/future use should determine what management and what land is chosen, its not just that simple.

Buttercups, for example, can't be left rampant where animals graze, unless you not mind a few health problems, and of course the reduced fertility of particularly your sheep stock! One of the reasons sheep are not really evolved to the wetter, lusher lowlands (including other reasons).

I'm stopping, having deleted a few paragraphs....no point on writing books here, lol

Good for you, we need more like you to think about indegenous flora and fauna.

I used to be into formal gardens, herbaceous borders and so on, but now I'm much more enlivened by natural scapes. Monty Donn once said you can't improve on natural scapes and I agree.

I really don't get these people that grown nothing but one foreign species, such as Dalihas, what a totaly pointless shallow activity.