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Forgive me asking, but does Isaac take after you or one of the grandparents / great-gps? I only ask because one of my nieces is quite blonde, yet both parents are dark-haired, as are the grandparents etc.
Me, and my mother's side of the family. I'm fair-skinned (plus freckles), fair-haired, blue-eyed, as are my sisters and brother, and my mother. In fact, Isaac looks very similar to my brother at the same age.
<digs around in photo folder>
there y'are....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
If you 'do' a second, it may pick up more of the other genes.
My DD is like OH and son like me.
It's a random thing.;)
I'm sure that's right - we could end up with one blonde, blue-eyed child, and one black-haired, dark-brown eyed child. Genetic lottery, innit....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
Wool is misunderstood....itchy, cannot chuck into machine (therefore seen as high maintenance) and a little 'worthy' (re; lizzy article).
I like wool - my suits are a fine wool weave (lined) and very comfortable to wear. And they are hard-wearing as well....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
We all have Phd's in hindsight.......some of us have several.;)
I understand now.....I could give a venture a go (assuming I am not hounded out by the local neighbours) but MUST show a living wage after 5 years?
That sounds like the business I run now! I wonder who the civil servant was who thought this one up...actually sounds very reasonable to me.
In Monmouthshire...what you are saying; she HAD to put farm on the market (therfore you viewed) but, IF she couldn't get a buyer, then she wouldn't have been accused of running a hobby farm and could stay on without being 'forced' to sell???
My family had close friends who ran sheep farms in Wales (Brecon) as I grew up in Aberystwyth....so the sheep thing must be stuck deep down in my soul.
I know they can have 'added value' one day.
BTW Have either of you read Felicity Lawrences books?
Haven't read the books I'm afraid, but will Google later.
You can do what you like on a smallholding, but I think HMRC investigate businesses if they think they're being run as a tax dodges and as a 'front' to obtain Tax Credits. It is, after all, very hard for them to check up on what you do! We ran our business from 1996 and reported varying profits, but without other income and the tax credits, we'd have had to give up. HMRC always accepted the hours we said we worked without question and never asked to see the accounts, so we could have invented the whole thing!
I know a smallholder who runs sheep, has a CCL caravan park, sells produce from the side of the road and lets out farm buildings. It was him who told me that it is best to run things as a business and report an occasional 'good' year to the taxman. He said he had a good accountant & rarely paid much tax at all. He isn't living the high life, mind you, just making the best of his resources.
The Monmouthshire widow could have stayed at her ag-tied farm for life, as ag-tie wording specifically allows widows to remain and simply let out the land, She just wanted to move to Usk, but if she could prove that the smallholding would not sell as a tied property, she could apply to have the tie removed. This would have instantly added about £100k to the value of the property. Whether she achieved her objective I can't say, as the land and location didn't really suit us well. It was up for sale for a long time.
Love the Abergavenny/Brecon area, but it is kinda expensive compared with Ceredigion, or Pembs. As to sheep; I'm not sure if I have much affinity with them after being in a motorbike accident with one when doing uni research on Exmoor many years ago. Put it this way, the sheep walked away and I didn't!0 -
LIR:as you can see, that's what I meant.
I liked your comments about land stewardship, or the lack of it. I really hate it when I read in an agent's details 'The vendors have left these fields as a wildlife sanctuary,' or some such tosh, meaning that they just let the place go.
Im not sure. OH and I were watching countryfile ( i think?) not so long ago and there was a sheep farmer if IIRC in Cumbria who had given over most of his land to wildflowers, using protecting biodiversity grants from the EU. I know countryfile isnt particularly indepth but I remember saying "oooh coukld we get grants for growing a load of pretty wildflowers that need limited input) ( the farmer stated he jsut chucked down LOADS of wildflower seed and just let nature do its thing) :cool:
FC, maybe if this is a goer, you could grow loads of flowers when the butterflies have karked it find a way of laquering them and making brooches
:beer: Well aint funny how its the little things in life that mean the most? Not where you live, the car you drive or the price tag on your clothes.
Theres no dollar sign on piece of mind
This Ive come to know...
So if you agree have a drink with me, raise your glasses for a toast :beer:0 -
Damien Hirst got there first....he puts gigantic mark up on dead butterflies.
FC, maybe if this is a goer, you could grow loads of flowers when the butterflies have karked it find a way of laquering them and making brooches
An expert on ''Adding Value''
Perhaps he is responsible for farmers planting wildflowers in West Country (he's in Dorset or Devon I believe) as he needs a lot of butterflies for the mass produced work he sold recently.
On a serious note; UK needs to start using it's homegrown rescources again. A task for the next generation to develop.
Danesnave...Felicity Lawrences 2 books (the second is more about big agri business and the effects on all of us) would really be worth a read. I understand about Monmouthshire sale now..cheers.0 -
Now, got to think of a great product as a way of adding value to sheep.
Spinning classes?RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.0 -
I would move back to Wales one day...can even remeber a tiny bit of spoken Welsh (it was compulsory to learn when I was at school in the late 60's)...still say Yakavee (sic) automatically, sometimes...but it's too far away from aging parents etc. OH's dad moved back to Swansea area after divorce..to his home town, but OH doesn't have any emotional connection to Wales.
Would be the best place to settle with regards to sheep though.
I'm OCD about Dorset at the mo....but only because 'Now' life is such a struggle....like a daydream.
Worse, I am moving back to London F/T in November and having to leave OH and DD in Brighton. It's work, Its needs as must (and I will come home for W/ends BUT it is rubbish....good mums/wives don't do that..can't write anymore about it as I get upset.
It's just a moment in time.0 -
Im not sure. OH and I were watching countryfile ( i think?) not so long ago and there was a sheep farmer if IIRC in Cumbria who had given over most of his land to wildflowers, using protecting biodiversity grants from the EU. I know countryfile isnt particularly indepth but I remember saying "oooh coukld we get grants for growing a load of pretty wildflowers that need limited input) ( the farmer stated he jsut chucked down LOADS of wildflower seed and just let nature do its thing) :cool:
FC, maybe if this is a goer, you could grow loads of flowers when the butterflies have karked it find a way of laquering them and making brooches
I don't know much about the soil and geology in Cumbria...less fertile, thinner soil does better for wildflowers in general. The land I use ATM is wonderful for biodiversity. DH got a bit frustrated with my 1 metre phots this year, recording with great delight the huge diversity in not ust wildflowers but grasses. I have to pull anything poisonous. But, this has had the right light touch management for over thirty years. Topped twice a year and grazed with a pretty low stocking density most years and then given a bit of a hammering, which looks ugly at the time (and cattle farmers would be horrified!) but the exposed soil and the disturbance thereof allows seed to fall. Its also been un fertilised, possibly ever. This suits horses, and sheep would do ok, but cows would not do well on this type of land at all. To create a wildflower meadow IS posible, but depending on the area/soil/flowers /grazes/previous use/future use should determine what management and what land is chosen, its not just that simple.
Buttercups, for example, can't be left rampant where animals graze, unless you not mind a few health problems, and of course the reduced fertility of particularly your sheep stock! One of the reasons sheep are not really evolved to the wetter, lusher lowlands (including other reasons).
I'm stopping, having deleted a few paragraphs....no point on writing books here, lol0 -
Damien Hirst got there first....he puts gigantic mark up on dead butterflies.
An expert on ''Adding Value''
Perhaps he is responsible for farmers planting wildflowers in West Country (he's in Dorset or Devon I believe) as he needs a lot of butterflies for the mass produced work he sold recently.
He's got a place in Ilfracombe, Devon, overlooking the channel. He used to live in Combe Martin and regularly go to the pub next door to my parent's house with his London mates.
I can still remember a noisy fight outside the pub between him and Keith Allen, it was mostly noise though.
If anyone's interested, he owns a bar and restaurant in Ilfracombe which has loads of his artwork on the walls, including some Butterfly stuff0
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