Help me out (Im going to rent a flat in England.)

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Hi All,

Im am going to rent a 2 bedroom flat in england fist time. Never rented house/flat before in England.
Ive chosen the flat already and will move in this weekend. 3 of us will live there. Just a normal life. Monday, work&school, weekend and monday start again.
As far as I know, the flat has got central gas heating system, electric shower and electric cooker. Gas, electricity bills are starting to be worrying me straight away. Ive read alot of posts in this forum. But most of them is talking about switching current supplier into new one. As for me I havent got any previous supplier.

Finally , what supplier suits for me well? How can I choose them? No idea at all.
Can anyone give me advise PLEASE,

Thanks in advance,
JE
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  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,038 Forumite
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    Initially you will have to use the gas/electricty from the company that is supplying the flat at the moment.

    Carefully check the meter readings for both gas and electricty and check it is the same as your rental agreement. If the flat has been vacant for a while it not your responsibility to pay for the energy used during that time.

    You should get a letter addressed to 'the occupier' for the company(s) supplying gas and electricity. Contact them and give them the meter reading.

    Many subsequent problems can be avoided if you do this at the very start of you tenancy. You will be surprised how many meter readings from the outgoing tenant are wrong - either by design!! or accident.

    When you know who your supplier is, you can look to see if there is a cheaper alternative. Go to a comparison website and enter 20,500kWh for gas and 3,300kWh for electricity. (this is the UK average consumption and you will not know if you will be using more or less than this figure)

    P.S.
    Make sure you read your water meter as well.
  • Ken68
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    Good, Jaberdene, that you have chosen a place with gas central heating. Your landlord will have the system checked each year by an authorised gas engineer and a certificate will be issued.
    Electric heating is very expensive.
    Check that you are not on an Economy 7 tariff.
    There cheaper ways to cook food than an electric oven and hob. Microwaves, steamers and remoskas.
    If you are not a family, some agreement should be made as to paying the bills.
    Take readings regularly of gas, electric and water meters.
    Check the insulating of the flat, landlords can get 100% grant
    Also practice using the shower for a minimum time.
    Good luck, keep in touch.
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    Ken68 wrote: »
    Good, Jaberdene, that you have chosen a place with gas central heating. Your landlord will have the system checked each year by an authorised gas engineer and a certificate will be issued.
    Electric heating is very expensive.
    Check that you are not on an Economy 7 tariff.
    There cheaper ways to cook food than an electric oven and hob. Microwaves, steamers and remoskas.
    If you are not a family, some agreement should be made as to paying the bills.
    Take readings regularly of gas, electric and water meters.
    Check the insulating of the flat, landlords can get 100% grant
    Also practice using the shower for a minimum time.
    Good luck, keep in touch.

    Thanks very much. Many thanks indeed
    JE
  • jaberdene
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    Cardew wrote: »
    Initially you will have to use the gas/electricty from the company that is supplying the flat at the moment.

    Carefully check the meter readings for both gas and electricty and check it is the same as your rental agreement. If the flat has been vacant for a while it not your responsibility to pay for the energy used during that time.

    You should get a letter addressed to 'the occupier' for the company(s) supplying gas and electricity. Contact them and give them the meter reading.

    Many subsequent problems can be avoided if you do this at the very start of you tenancy. You will be surprised how many meter readings from the outgoing tenant are wrong - either by design!! or accident.

    When you know who your supplier is, you can look to see if there is a cheaper alternative. Go to a comparison website and enter 20,500kWh for gas and 3,300kWh for electricity. (this is the UK average consumption and you will not know if you will be using more or less than this figure)

    P.S.
    Make sure you read your water meter as well.

    Thanks mate, I will do as you said,
    JE.
  • spiro
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    Cardew wrote: »
    Initially you will have to use the gas/electricty from the company that is supplying the flat at the moment.
    Whilst the rest of Cardew says it correct, this part is not. When you move into a property you can use any supplier from day one. As long as you take the meter reading and provide these to the new supplier they will take care of advising the old supplier at the flat of the readings who can then send finals bills to the old tenant/landlord.
    IT Consultant in the utilities industry specialising in the retail electricity market.

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  • jaberdene
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    spiro wrote: »
    Whilst the rest of Cardew says it correct, this part is not. When you move into a property you can use any supplier from day one. As long as you take the meter reading and provide these to the new supplier they will take care of advising the old supplier at the flat of the readings who can then send finals bills to the old tenant/landlord.

    Thanks again,
    I will do tenancy contract today.
    I will take meter readings and found out what kind of meter in that house.
    So which supplier good for a new tenant like me? Any advice?

    Thanks
    JE
  • jaberdene
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    Cardew wrote: »
    Initially you will have to use the gas/electricty from the company that is supplying the flat at the moment.

    Carefully check the meter readings for both gas and electricty and check it is the same as your rental agreement. If the flat has been vacant for a while it not your responsibility to pay for the energy used during that time.

    You should get a letter addressed to 'the occupier' for the company(s) supplying gas and electricity. Contact them and give them the meter reading.

    Many subsequent problems can be avoided if you do this at the very start of you tenancy. You will be surprised how many meter readings from the outgoing tenant are wrong - either by design!! or accident.

    When you know who your supplier is, you can look to see if there is a cheaper alternative. Go to a comparison website and enter 20,500kWh for gas and 3,300kWh for electricity. (this is the UK average consumption and you will not know if you will be using more or less than this figure)

    P.S.
    Make sure you read your water meter as well.

    Hi Guys,

    I moved in the flat and chose Click 6 Dual Fuel tariff of British Gas .
    My electricity meter reading was 67742 on 16-OCT and now 69907. That means we used 69907-67742=2165kWh so far. Click 6 Electricity Tier1 (first 125kWh) tariff is 19.723p and Tier2 tariff is 9.098p.
    Total cost for 2165kWh is 125*19.723+(2165-125)*9.098=210.25295Pound
    But it cant be true that 210pound just for the 25 days' electricity bill.
    We dnt use electricity for heating.
    Something wrong here?
    Any help please,

    JE.
  • Cardew
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    jaberdene wrote: »
    Hi Guys,

    I moved in the flat and chose Click 6 Dual Fuel tariff of British Gas .
    My electricity meter reading was 67742 on 16-OCT and now 69907. That means we used 69907-67742=2165kWh so far. Click 6 Electricity Tier1 (first 125kWh) tariff is 19.723p and Tier2 tariff is 9.098p.
    Total cost for 2165kWh is 125*19.723+(2165-125)*9.098=210.25295Pound
    But it cant be true that 210pound just for the 25 days' electricity bill.
    We dnt use electricity for heating.
    Something wrong here?
    Any help please,

    JE.
    The most likely explanation is your meter readings are incorrect.

    Is it a digital display or dials?

    The older meters with dials can be confusing to read as the dials go clockwise and then anti-clockwise. i.e. when the pointer is just past, say, the figure 6 in a clockwise direction it is reading 5

    see the illustration here:

    http://www.moneysupermarket.com/c/utilities/meters-guide/1/

    Just a smaller point(that won't affect your calculations much) but the 125 tier 1 allocation is per quarter(91 days) so for 25 days it will be 125/91 x 25 = 34 Tier 1 units

    Are those prices without VAT @ 5%?
  • jaberdene
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    Cardew wrote: »
    The most likely explanation is your meter readings are incorrect.

    Is it a digital display or dials?

    The older meters with dials can be confusing to read as the dials go clockwise and then anti-clockwise. i.e. when the pointer is just past, say, the figure 6 in a clockwise direction it is reading 5

    see the illustration here:

    http://www.moneysupermarket.com/c/utilities/meters-guide/1/

    Just a smaller point(that won't affect your calculations much) but the 125 tier 1 allocation is per quarter(91 days) so for 25 days it will be 125/91 x 25 = 34 Tier 1 units

    Are those prices without VAT @ 5%?

    Hi
    Thanks first,

    It is digital Display.
    Im still wondering that u mentioned in first post that average monthly electricity of UK family is 3300kWh. and my one is still under it.
    Is the elctricity in UK such a expensive here?

    JE
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,038 Forumite
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    jaberdene wrote: »
    Hi
    Thanks first,

    It is digital Display.
    Im still wondering that u mentioned in first post that average monthly electricity of UK family is 3300kWh. and my one is still under it.
    Is the elctricity in UK such a expensive here?

    JE

    Average ANNUAL consumption is 3,300kWh - (275kWh a month)

    You really must have misread the meter initially or the last time!! It is impossible to use 86kWh per day. Even with heating(and you don't)

    Just do a check over a day or so and you can see what you use.

    The only other possibilty I can think of is that you are 'paying' for the whole block of flats.

    However all this is easy to check by watching your meter - disconect everything including fridge freezer and put on a known electrical load(that isn't on a thermostat)
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