Police Warning Notice - No Tax

Debt_Free_Chick

spaceman5 wrote: »

sorry to be pedantic, but in your original post you said it expires 30/07/09, so that means you can not have had the disk for longer than 3 months, so how can it have been there for the last 9 months?, Dave

I've only had this disk since mid-July. I had the previous disk for 12 months. I've had the (crappy) disk holder for years. I've owned the vehicle for ... oooohhh...... five years?

Reluctant_spender

Sadly the law can be an !!! - In this case it is a case of not being correctly displayed.

The Police are acting as agents for DVLA in this case and that's the most likely reason for not getting a FPN. The Police are merely Tax Collectors for the Government.

liam8282

The reason the tax disc is to be displayed on your windscreen, is so that when you are driving you can clearly see the tax disc. Police cars have all sorts of cameras and computers nowadays (I think they can even scan your tax disc and number plates when you are driving?), so that is the main reason that everybody must display their tax disc in the same way.

Saying that a police officer can clearly come up to your car and read it when it is parked up, doesn't really make any difference, when you are driving it will look as though you don't have a tax disc to everyone else.

I for one would definitely shop anyone driving around without a tax disc, even if it wasn't on display. No tax disc usually means, no MOT, no insurance and probably no licence.

Just go buy a new tax disc holder and count yourself lucky you weren't fined.

Debt_Free_Chick

liam8282 wrote: »

The reason the tax disc is to be displayed on your windscreen, is so that when you are driving you can clearly see the tax disc. Police cars have all sorts of cameras and computers nowadays (I think they can even scan your tax disc and number plates when you are driving?), so that is the main reason that everybody must display their tax disc in the same way.

Saying that a police officer can clearly come up to your car and read it when it is parked up, doesn't really make any difference, when you are driving it will look as though you don't have a tax disc to everyone else.

I for one would definitely shop anyone driving around without a tax disc, even if it wasn't on display. No tax disc usually means, no MOT, no insurance and probably no licence.

Just go buy a new tax disc holder and count yourself lucky you weren't fined.

Fined for what?

scubaangel

Not displaying I think as it wasnt clearly visible.

Debt_Free_Chick

I'm gonna have to take a photo. Honestly - it's not in any way hidden, which is why I'm so perplexed about the whole thing. It really is clearly visible. But if you look at the windscreen and see the mark where the holder used to be, it's easy to assume that "there is no tax disc". But take two steps closer and there it is. It's not obscured by anything else on the windscreen or on the dash - it's just sat there .... on its own .... dying to be noticed

scubaangel

I know, but as we said the other night lazy plod could have fined you but didnt, which is lucky.
As for how the camera read number plates Ive never heard of them 'reading' tax discs so not sure how accurate that info would be.

If for no other reason than to stop thread going round in circles I recommend telling everyone you just bought a new disc holder. :rolleyes:

Debt_Free_Chick

scubaangel wrote: »

I know, but as we said the other night lazy plod could have fined you but didnt, which is lucky.
As for how the camera read number plates Ive never heard of them 'reading' tax discs so not sure how accurate that info would be.

If for no other reason than to stop thread going round in circles I recommend telling everyone you just bought a new disc holder. :rolleyes:

I would be prepared to dispute any fine .... having now Googled ....

Regulation 6 of the the Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) Regulations 2002 explains how the license is to be displayed. To paraphrase ....

... the manner in which any vehicle licence ..... is to be fixed to and exhibited on the vehicle .... is that specified in the following provisions of this regulation ...
(3) Each such licence shall be fixed to the vehicle in a holder sufficient to protect the licence from the weather to which it would otherwise be exposed.

(4) The licence shall be exhibited on the vehicle -

(a) in the case of an invalid vehicle, tricycle or bicycle, other than in a case specified in sub-paragraph (b) or (c) of this paragraph, on the near side of the vehicle;

(b) in the case of a bicycle drawing a side-car or to which a side-car is attached, on the near side of the handlebars of the bicycle or on the near side of the side-car;

(c) in the case of any vehicle fitted with a glass windscreen in front of the driver extending across the vehicle to its near side, on or adjacent to the near side of the windscreen;

(d) in the case of any other vehicle -

• (i) if the vehicle is fitted with a driver's cab containing a near side window, on that window; or
  
  (ii) on the near side of the vehicle in front of the driver's seat and not less than 760 mm and not more than 1.8 metres above the surface of the road.

I've added the emphasis in (c) above. My disc was displayed "adjacent to the near side of the windscreen".

Thanks folks

JoeyG

loaner wrote: »

camera's don't scan the disc, they read the numberplate and compare with the database.

Now theres an idea...

I wonder when the police will cotton on to this revolutionary concept?

hewhoisnotintheknow

JoeyG wrote: »

Now theres an idea...

I wonder when the police will cotton on to this revolutionary concept?

doesnt bother me if they do, infact it would help cut down on tax dodgers