Speeding Fine - or not?

sarahg1969

You'll have to wait and see. If your speedo read 40, then you would have been doing under that. Probably 35-37. 35 is the starting point for NIPing a driver.

If and when you do receive a NIP, keep the envelope, and do nothing until you have sought advice on https://www.pepipoo.com.

AliceBanned

bargepole wrote: »

The short answer - very difficult, especially in Magistrates' Courts where they tend to take everything the police say as gospel, and the supposedly independent Clerk Of Court is often actively helping the prosecution to railroad their case through.

However, by studying all the relevant aspects of road traffic law, criminal justice, and court procedures (about 2 years' worth of study), you can gain the upper hand over "the system", especially on issues such as disclosure of evidence, resisting adjournments, and admissibility of documents. It also helps if you have access to someone who can provide expert analysis of photographs and videotape.

On most of the cases I've been involved in, I spent 3-6 months preparing a defence. Most were dropped before they reached Court. Those that went to Court often involved a very junior newly-qualified prosecutor, who had only looked at the file 10 minutes before the case started. This can be a big advantage to the defendant, if you know how to exploit it.

A good place to start is by trawling through the forums at pepipoo, safespeed, and 5ive-o, then transcripts of proceedings from the court service website.

Thank you bargepole. For this time I will do the course - anything less clear and I would contest it. Thanks for the info though.

AliceBanned

Reggie_Rebel wrote: »

We know that you drive too fast, hence the speeding ticket, correct or not

That's a stupid generalisation and means nothing and helps no one.

AliceBanned

bargepole wrote: »

We don't "know" anything, until and unless the OP has decided to either accept a fixed penalty, or gets convicted in Court.

Now get back in your Rover 416 and put your trilby hat and stringback driving gloves on.

Ha ha! The number of times these dangerous idiots have nearly caused accidents!

AliceBanned

Reggie_Rebel wrote: »

Modern motors may be efficient, modern drivers are not. As seen by the number of "Can I get off my speeding ticket?" threads.

I don't buy the "speed cameras do nothing for road safety" guff. How many times have you been overtaken by a speed camera? How many times have you had to pull into the inside lane because a speed camera is doing 60 in the middle lane? Haw many times have you been stuck behind a speed camera doing 10mph because it's on the 'phone?

Drivers impact on road safety, unfortunately they cannot be trusted to drive properly and with due regard for anyone else so limits, artificial or otherwise have to be implemented and then we get the "oh it was only a little over the limit", "oh it was 2.00 am in the morning", "oh I didn't see the sign because I was texting my mate" brigade come and not expect a bit of grief

The statistics can't be wrong. Perhaps you might see reality better if you started realising that yellow boxes are inanimate objects and are not your friends. Good driving is about having judgement, and this requires a brain and a thoughtful mind, not to mention patience and consideration for other people. some people need the law to tell them how to drive, others are human beings.

lesley1960

My husband got caught speeding on the motorway ,the summons came through saying he was stopped for driving with L plates !! He tried arguing that he was be charge incorrectly ,he didnt get away with it lol

CHR15

mousytrap wrote: »

Has anyone actually been to one of these courses? I've just been offered one...

How many people and do you get to blend into the background??? Do you have to watch gory films?

mousy, Southampton and not keen on gory films

I've been on one in the Thames Valley, just outside Reading (where I go caught).

There were about 20 people in the room, all very informal and light hearted.
A bit of a lecture followed by a computer simulations (just mouse clicking, no typing)

Watched a movie which included an accident involving a child getting hit (no gore, just dented bonnet and smashed windscreen) followed by an explanation of why 30mph is FAR more safe than 40mph for pedestrians.

At 30 the pedestrian hits the windscreen (which absorbs the impact) then rolls off the front of the car into the road, at 40mph the pedestrian goes over the roof and hits the road behind the car.

It was quite informative, of course everyone in there felt victimised but there was no soap box preaching at all.

My course was at 6-30pm so I didn't even have to take time off work to attend.