Threatened at local post Office- for taking children! (sorry long)

krisskross

Never ceases to amaze me how het up people get after hearing a very one sided view of events........George Bush and Our Tone made a very good case for invading Iraq....but when we heard the other side..........
If the OP wishes to use that paticular post office then she has to control her children or not take them with her....afraid this is a fight she will be very unlikely to win. She can of course vote with her feet and go elsewhere.

jockettuk

go to the local toddlers group or get a load of your mates and take all of them into the post office with as many kids you can find ..

basically if they had done the job in the first place and not told her to come back she wouldnt have had the 2 kids with her, if they hadnt taken so long chatting to there mates the kids wouldnt have got bored. as for the way she was spoken to isnt this a threatning manner would the post office have put up with this had it happened to there staff no i dont think so .. they would have called the auld bill asap mabey a chat to the local plod because she thought she was being threatned might make the post office sit up and take notice... okey if kids were naughty thats fine but its not fine to be verbally abused by a member of staff from any company..

black-saturn

The bottom line is that unless you have had children or had experience of looking after one for any amount of time you wouldnt know what is normal behaviour and what isnt. It isnt very easy to control a 2 year old when they are having a tantrum. If you give into them you are only reinforcing that tantrum. You can't shout at them in public because as many people will moan about you shouting as there are about a child having a tantrum and you certainly cant smack them in public. The best and only way to deal with it is to ignore them. Then they learn that it wont work in the future.

IvanOpinion

I was hoping not to get involved in this one because as far as I am concerned a parent can beat the lviing daylights out of their kids and it is nothing to do with me ... however ...

I think black-saturn has highlighted an important point. It is often a case of what people are used to in their everyday lives. I can find kiddies running around and screaming very annoying (but yet I am expected to put up with it .. because they are just kids) whereas a parent hears it everyday and can often block it out. The strange thing is that theyonly seem to be able to block out their own kids noise because they complain equally loudly about other peoples children (being childless one of the funny things is that parents are really nice about each others children when both sets of parents are there but they then complain wildly about each others children when they are not there).

On the other hand if my dogs start playing around in the house and barking I am used to that and think nothing of it because they always do it but yet the same thing can annoy visitors (and they don't see the irony when I thell them they are just dogs).

The issue is whether or not other people SHOULD have to put up with other peoples children ... unfortunately society says we must. If anybody complains they are made out to be the big bad ogre although if it had been my dogs barking I wonder if there would be a difference made? Rhetorical .. of course there would.

Ivan

daveboy

Confirmation of what my view of the Post Office is.

1) Full of benefit scroungers, or
2) Pensioners who moan they have nothing to live on when it's their own fault, or
3) Women with children they can't control

In additon to number three, women who try to do a big trolley shop in a supermarket with young children they cannot control really do me, big style.

I hate Post Offices so much there is only one time I'll go near one. To send a parcel. I buy books of stamps, have an Easyweigh for any international things I want to send, and have loads of airmail stickers.

There are two things keeping Post Offices open. Benefits and eBay.

I thank the Government for making road tax payable online - it took away another occasion, once a year, when I had to go into a Post Office.

We only get one side of the story in this situation so I make no comment on the incident described. What I've said are the things that have made me avoid them in any case.

Wig

Black Sat, has convieniently ignored the fact that there are reigns for kids for sale, and it wasn't that they were just being noisy they were messing around round the post office floor.

Don't tell me a 2 year old on reigns is uncontrolable.

krisskross

Black Saturn I have 4 children so feel qualified to comment.
As I said previously the little ones were always on reins so no question of them running around in shops or whatever. and no question either of someone opening a shop door and letting them out into the street, which is something that would worry me if I had let them run around .
There was no mention in the original post of the children throwing a tantrum, just that they were running around, no doubt squealing and shouting as children do.
My children, grown up now, will tell you that "the look" from Mum was enough to stop them doing whatever it was that I didn't approve of. They knew that retribution would follow swiftly.......although it was never physical, i don't approve of hitting children.

black-saturn

daveboy wrote:

In additon to number three, women who try to do a big trolley shop in a supermarket with young children they cannot control really do me, big style.

So how are they supposed to shop if they are a lone parent?

Why dont we all go back to Victorian times where children can be seen but not heard. Or preferably not seen or heard.

I agree about the reigns thing, I used them with my children, but aparantly there are people who will tut and frown about this now.

Dammam

Wig wrote:

It is the cause of the event.

Nah m8. The cause of the event is the counter staff being unable or unwilling to do the job which they're paid for in the first place, and then behaving inappropriately to the customer who has been forced to wait thanks to THEIR inefficiency.
Had the staff done their job in the first place, the OP would not have had 2 children to look after. Had the staff done their job in the SECOND place, the children would not have become fractious due to boredom.
Control of children in public places is a different issue, and only became part of this tale due to the bad customer service from Post Office Counters.

black-saturn

Dammam wrote:

Nah m8. The cause of the event is the counter staff being unable or unwilling to do the job which they're paid for in the first place, and then behaving inappropriately to the customer who has been forced to wait thanks to THEIR inefficiency.
Had the staff done their job in the first place, the OP would not have had 2 children to look after. Had the staff done their job in the SECOND place, the children would not have become fractious due to boredom.
Control of children in public places is a different issue, and only became part of this tale due to the bad customer service from Post Office Counters.

Well said :T