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kevanf1 wrote: »

Thank you 'no_choice_now'. There are, apparently some other exceptions but they are pretty well intelligent ones. Those being a right of access for power & water supply personnel. However, for all the others I can now say "oi, git orff moy land" in a silly accent of course with legal backing. To be serious though, I can use this law with conviction and aim to do so, cheers.

Yes my list certainly wasn't exhaustive. What it boils down to is common sense in common law. If you could show a police officer that you had a good reason to be there then you aren't likely trespassing. That could even include trying to catch your dog if it run off and went in someones garden etc. Also if you see someone likely committing a crime and went on someones property to try and stop it then again you wouldn't be committing an offence, because you had no ill intent for trying to protect the interests of property owner.

It really boils down to what we commonly know is right or wrong when it comes to going on someone elses property.

I'm glad you've looked in to this and intend to apply it. What's more important than using it to get peoples backs up is to simply educate them on the subject.

Of course you're free to do what you want but if I was in your position I would perhaps be inclined to print out a handy quick reference guide on the subject for newbies, and keep a small pile of them by the front door to hand out whenever somebody ignored my Notice.

I don't have any Notices up because quite frankly I like it when my doorbell rings and I'm willing to entertain anybody who made the effort to come up my garden path and I'm always happy to hear proposals from tradesmen, the majority of whom are honest decent people. I will not be a sheeple and listen to government propaganda that says all cold calling must be banned just because of the unscrupulous minority. Tradesmen have been using implied rights of access to earn a living for thousands of years and the present administration doesn't have any real right to change that and deny people the right to try and earn a living

Besides it's not like you'll readily find me balancing atop a 20 foot ladder with my hand in a gutter lol :eek: Let gutter cleaners ring, ring, ring!

landsker

How does one stop the plethora of plastic envelopes containing a plastic bag for donations of clothes etc. to XXXX charity?
We get a couple a week at least. They go straight in the bin.
If we have "stuff" fit for re-use we take it personally to our local Barnardo's shop.
At least we know it won't be going to a private enterprise scammer!

custardy

landsker wrote: »

How does one stop the plethora of plastic envelopes containing a plastic bag for donations of clothes etc. to XXXX charity?
We get a couple a week at least. They go straight in the bin.
If we have "stuff" fit for re-use we take it personally to our local Barnardo's shop.
At least we know it won't be going to a private enterprise scammer!

you cant
theres no opt out bar putting a sign up to request it or i suppose a lockable letterbox

kevanf1

custardy wrote: »

you cant
theres no opt out bar putting a sign up to request it or i suppose a lockable letterbox

I could be wrong but I'm sure I have read that every dwelling place has to have a repository for mail. Whether that is a standard letterbox (is there such a thing?) or one of those metal boxes on the wall/post. Please feel free to disprove this.

As for the charity bags... agreed, pain up the backside. I find them nasty the way they con people into thinking they are actually from a charity when most are not!

Ours all go in the bin or, if I happen to be outside when they are delivering I politely tell them "no thank you"

cazpumpkin

custardy wrote: »

you mean people trying to make a living in a recession?
put the catalogue out for collection and forget about it,is it really such a hardship?

if it comes through my letterbox and i dont want it and ive told people i dont want it then it doesnt go back outside it goes in my kitchen bin, when they knock on the door asking for the catalogue i tell them straight its in the bin sorry, when they complain i tell them its simple dont deliver to me and you wont get your catalogues binned.

all junk mail and plastic charity bags go in the recycle bin immediately

all cold callers i dont even open the door, if i dont recognise people at the door and especially in the evenings when its dark i dont even open the door , i just go to the window and shake my head for no go away or say through the letterbox no thanks.

ive got young kids to protect and my husband is at work so im not answering the door to strangers, the boston strangler gained admission to his victims houses by posing as an energy salesman or something similar

cold callers by phone i just hang up , if they ask for my husband and claim to be from sky/aol/energy companies/banks etc I tell them he doesnt want to take the call and if its that important to write to him, sometimes i pretend i AM him and just lower my voice haha

sometimes if the kids take phone calls from sales people and say I AM in i tell them im dead interested but I need to swat a wasp/turn the oven off/answer the door etc then i leave them hanging on till they hang up

sometimes i tell them to eff off, sometimes i pretend to talk japanese, im unfortunately extremely childish and dont empathise well with strangers wasting my time without wanting to waste theirs as well

custardy

thanks for that fascinating insight

cazpumpkin

youre welcome !

Dave_C_2

We re-use some of the plastic bags we get through the letterbox
Latest uses include old wallpaper strippings, leaves. loft storage and general bagging of rubbish to go in the bin.

My only gripe is they insist on putting holes in them! The bin liners from supermarkets don't have holes in, but these do. Elf and safety gone mad!

Dave

kevanf1

May I suggest a polite way of telling cold callers to go away? Many times just saying you are not interested simply does not work. I now stop them in their tracks when they start the waffle. I ask if they have made an appointment, obviously they haven't. I then say I am fully booked for 2,3 or even 10 years time and then say good bye. At that point if they still insist on keeping on talking then they are doing so to my back as I walk back through the gate.

custardy

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