My slideshow looks crap on tv

aliEnRIK

thor wrote: »

There are 3 options. 720, 1080 and sd progressive. Non of them show the pictures as well as my 17" monitor.
Are you suggesting that the upscaling is causing the problem? My tv is the Bravia KDL40S-3000. Is there a reason to try 1920x1080?

ok
Your sony panel has pixels of 1366 x 768
So its neither a true 720 or 1080 (Much like most hdtvs)
Im not sure how your 'slideshow' works. Is it an actual dvd (Playable on ANY dvd player) or ONLY on a dvd player such as yours (Ie, actual .jpg pictures or suchlike)?
If its an ACTUAL dvd theres not much else you can do, although it should look best through SD. This means the dvd player will just PLAY the dvd and the sony will UPSCALE it. If you try EITHER 720 OR 1080 it would HAVE to scale TWICE (Once to 720 or 1080 then the sony would scale to 768!)

If its a pc format (jpg etc) ~ I would recommend trying to redo a slideshow to 1920x1080 and displaying at 1080 so that the dvd player doesnt scale and ONLY the sony is scaling

(I hope this makes sense!)

Bare in mind it will NEVER look as good on your sony tv though as it simply isnt as HIGH RESOLUTION as a monitor (Though pictures through my ps3 to my pioneer 42" with the SAME (Or similar) pixel resolution as yours looks very good)

Best of luck mate

thor

aliEnRIK wrote: »

ok
Your sony panel has pixels of 1366 x 768
So its neither a true 720 or 1080 (Much like most hdtvs)
Im not sure how your 'slideshow' works. Is it an actual dvd (Playable on ANY dvd player) or ONLY on a dvd player such as yours (Ie, actual .jpg pictures or suchlike)?
If its an ACTUAL dvd theres not much else you can do, although it should look best through SD. This means the dvd player will just PLAY the dvd and the sony will UPSCALE it. If you try EITHER 720 OR 1080 it would HAVE to scale TWICE (Once to 720 or 1080 then the sony would scale to 768!)

I have used a few slideshow programs including Ifranview to make the slideshows in an attempt to fix this problem. They have all been on CDs rather than DVDs.
Also I can't detect any discernable differences between sd, 720 or 1080.

aliEnRIK wrote: »

If its a pc format (jpg etc) ~ I would recommend trying to redo a slideshow to 1920x1080 and displaying at 1080 so that the dvd player doesnt scale and ONLY the sony is scaling

(I hope this makes sense!)

You mean putting jpgs on a cd after they have all been changed to 1920x1080?

aliEnRIK wrote: »

Bare in mind it will NEVER look as good on your sony tv though as it simply isnt as HIGH RESOLUTION as a monitor (Though pictures through my ps3 to my pioneer 42" with the SAME (Or similar) pixel resolution as yours looks very good)

Best of luck mate

I am hoping that this is not the case. It is sad that these super dooper hdtvs are not so super!

Btw, I appreciate the time you have taken to make all these replies. Thanks.

aliEnRIK

thor wrote: »

I have used a few slideshow programs including Ifranview to make the slideshows in an attempt to fix this problem. They have all been on CDs rather than DVDs.
Also I can't detect any discernable differences between sd, 720 or 1080.



You mean putting jpgs on a cd after they have all been changed to 1920x1080?


I am hoping that this is not the case. It is sad that these super dooper hdtvs are not so super!

Btw, I appreciate the time you have taken to make all these replies. Thanks.

Yes, put them onto cd and change output display to 1080
Bare in mind you monitor is much smaller and higher resolution so ANY picture is going to look better on it

But as ive said, pics on my Pioneer 42" fed from my PS3 look really good (Albeit not as good as my 22" monitor). Im pretty sure the fault lies with your dvd player (Mainly)

I dont know what dvd player you have but the ones at the cheaper end of the scale just arnt much cop. Even hdmi can be VERY poor on some! You get what you pay for (tv included)

Perhaps you could borrow a player of some sort to check if it is the player or not?

bob_a_builder

Dimensions 2592x1944
36 inches x 27 inches
Pixels Per Inch 72
Pixel Depth 24/16 million

its not 72dpi then

its a 5 mp image, which if you were to print it on a device with a resolution of 72 dpi would produce a print 36" x 27"
and we all do that all the time !

more often they are printed at 6 x 4 giving a more reasonable resolution of 400dpi odd

thor

There is something strange going on with the dimensions and image info being reported by paintshop.
I have opened a photo that when I check with paintshop's current information function it says that the picture is
2048 x 1536 pixels
28.444 x 21.222 inches
pixels per inch 72
pixel depth/color used 26/16 million

Looking the the size of it when the zoom is set to 1 it appears to be slightly smaller at about 21 x 15 inches and in the bottom corner it there is a line which gave the image size as 2048 x 1536 - 9 Mbytes.
This ties in with bob's size estimate but when saved on disc it is less than 1Mbyte. Why is this? Is it because the size of the picture in RAM is always bigger than a files saved as a jpg? How could I work out the dpi resolution if it is not 72dpi as was listed by paintshop?

thor

aliEnRIK wrote: »

Yes, put them onto cd and change output display to 1080
Bare in mind you monitor is much smaller and higher resolution so ANY picture is going to look better on it

But as ive said, pics on my Pioneer 42" fed from my PS3 look really good (Albeit not as good as my 22" monitor). Im pretty sure the fault lies with your dvd player (Mainly)

I dont know what dvd player you have but the ones at the cheaper end of the scale just arnt much cop. Even hdmi can be VERY poor on some! You get what you pay for (tv included)

Perhaps you could borrow a player of some sort to check if it is the player or not?

The dvd recorder I am using is an admittedly cheap Wharfedale from Argos and unfortunately I have no access to any other hdmi enabled dvd players. If it was not for these pictures I would not have been fussed about hdmi at all as I am perfectly happy with dvd standard(heck I'm still ok with vhs)

Print_Screen

How are you saving to DVD? If the size is less than 1MB it sounds like you are saving Thumbnails to the DVD rather than the actually picture, which would explain the low quality and small size.
A thumbnail is a small picture of low resolution that links to a much larger one of high resolution when you click on it.

aliEnRIK

thor wrote: »

There is something strange going on with the dimensions and image info being reported by paintshop.
I have opened a photo that when I check with paintshop's current information function it says that the picture is
2048 x 1536 pixels
28.444 x 21.222 inches
pixels per inch 72
pixel depth/color used 26/16 million

Looking the the size of it when the zoom is set to 1 it appears to be slightly smaller at about 21 x 15 inches and in the bottom corner it there is a line which gave the image size as 2048 x 1536 - 9 Mbytes.
This ties in with bob's size estimate but when saved on disc it is less than 1Mbyte. Why is this? Is it because the size of the picture in RAM is always bigger than a files saved as a jpg? How could I work out the dpi resolution if it is not 72dpi as was listed by paintshop?

Clearly the ones saved to disc are NOT the same!
Something amiss with your slideshow there Thor.

totalsolutions

Thor, You are thinking about it now then. Forget 72 dpi. When you are saving the image do not degrade / downsize to 72dpi.

thor

I think my last post has confused more than it clarified so I better outline what I did with my photos.

1. I took the pictures using my canon powershot a610 which saved them to memory as jpgs.

2. I transferred the the files via usb to my pc.

3. Using these files I have made cd(not dvd) slideshows with Irfanview which display perfectly on my monitor but very badly on my Bravia.

I have never changed the resolution. The jpgs on my hard drive are 72 pixels per inch and this must be the original resolution set by the canon.
Maybe pixels per inch is not trhe same as dpi? I think I read somewhere about one being monitor resolution while the other is for printers. Any ideas about this?