No Firewall

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loaner wrote: »

Like install AV software.

Neither of the machines I use at work have security software on them. Neither machine has had any issues in the last ~18 months to suggest it would be appropriate to do so.

The laptop and desktop I use for home-office have anti virus installed contractually. Neither machines have had issues.

Maybe in our organisation we rely on common sense..

[Deleted User]

loaner wrote: »

Common sense would be to pay for AV software.

Why, when it's not needed?

[Deleted User]

loaner wrote: »

How do you know they aren't infected, how do you know they won't be infected on Tuesday morning. If the company isn't bothered about the possible implications, then that is their decision, but it is somewhat irresponsible. Also irrational to insist external PC's have AV, and then have none internally.

Because I have never put any of the machines I use in a situation where they would be subject to malicious software. Not to mention, a well managed network makes individual workstation security redundant. Once again, it's common sense.

Millionaire

anewhope wrote: »

Because I have never put any of the machines I use in a situation where they would be subject to malicious software. Not to mention, a well managed network makes individual workstation security redundant. Once again, it's common sense.

Out of curiosity, what security measures are in place at work?

TorrestheGreat

loaner wrote: »

When you get hit by a worm, you'll see how well managed your network is, and how good your backups are, (assuming you do backups).

You seem to be out of your depth in this. You have been told repeatedly that AV software is not the panacea you think it is, but you have swallowed the marketing/scaremongering so completely that you think you cant accept the alternative point of view

Millionaire

TorrestheGreat wrote: »

You seem to be out of your depth in this. You have been told repeatedly that AV software is not the panacea you think it is

By which respected security experts? Or just in your opinon?

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Millionaire wrote: »

Out of curiosity, what security measures are in place at work?

All user accounts are roaming accounts rather than local, emails are heavily monitored and any attachments are automatically held until you request them to be released allowing the server side software to ensure they are safe. We're not permitted to use any form of removable storage. If you wish to transfer anything for use within the corporate network then it's uploaded to a secure server which is remote from the network, then it will be scanned and transferred to a holding server to be downloaded locally.

[Deleted User]

loaner wrote: »

When you get hit by a worm, you'll see how well managed your network is, and how good your backups are, (assuming you do backups).

If that happens then people will be out of a job, and in 18 months that hasn't happened.

Millionaire

anewhope wrote: »

All user accounts are roaming accounts rather than local, emails are heavily monitored and any attachments are automatically held until you request them to be released allowing the server side software to ensure they are safe. We're not permitted to use any form of removable storage. If you wish to transfer anything for use within the corporate network then it's uploaded to a secure server which is remote from the network, then it will be scanned and transferred to a holding server to be downloaded locally.

Thanks, How are files scanned to determine if they are safe or not by the servers?

[Deleted User]

Millionaire wrote: »

Thanks, How are files scanned to determine if they are safe or not by the servers?

Which servers?

Email servers have extremely militant anti virus scanners.

Upload servers will only accept a select few file types. What is uploaded cannot be complete source code, ie nothing that can be compiled and ran straight away.

It's perhaps an extreme example, but protecting seriously large investments is paramount, but my point still stands that common sense can over ride the need for antivirus software on a standalone home user machine.