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16 year old son starting his army training help!

edited 30 November -1 at 12:00AM in UK Armed Forces MoneySaving
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  • I was reading ur post with a little tear in my eye my daughter is off to training next week and I am dreading it, as her training is in the south of england and we live in N. Ireland. Her dad is taking her over so that is a big weight of my mind, I feel for u having to let him do this on his own he must be a strong lad willing to go the extra mile to go to training good on him u should be really proud. They do get a warrant at 6 weeks so i hope this will ease ur mind abit. I hope everything goes well.
    Well yes you could say I am realy proud. I know how he is determined to do this so at least I know he wont drop out.
    It nice to hear from other parent that is also sending there "little one" off to train away from home.
    I am looking forward to seeing him all grown up. Its like sending my little boy away and getting a man back. I'm sure thay will learn so much. I do hope your daughter does well and sure she will be fine too. Good luck
    lots of small steps
    will get you a long way
    bsc 140
  • TomJ wrote: »
    A decent pair of running shoes as opposed to "fashion" trainers is probably a good shout. I don't know how much the army does in boots, but I dare say there'll still be a fair bit in trainers and the Asics I took to initial training served me well. I got a 10% discount from the Up and Running shop in Sheen (nr Richmond) on a new pair of Brooks trainers a month or so ago; while they didn't have an official Forces discount they rean it through as a running club discount. You might try letting whichever shop you go to know what they're for and see if they'll give a discount.
    great tip thanks:beer: any discount will help I never thought to ask for one before.
    lots of small steps
    will get you a long way
    bsc 140
  • Cat695 wrote: »
    To be honest guys i really wouln't waste your money on a ironing board....every 3 months the training team get 40+ new recruits each bringing their own ironing board......they NEVER take them when they move to phase 2

    when i was a Cpl there i could have opened my own secondhand ironing board shop with the amount left behind (though i would take my own iron)
    well an oroning board wont be going with my son. seven hundred and odd miles on a ferry a night in a b&b then 3 or 4 trains NO WAY. A bag will be enough for him to luck after on such a long journey alone. Thanks for the tip i'm sure it will be useful to some.
    lots of small steps
    will get you a long way
    bsc 140
  • kyhkyh
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    also don't forget to get him to apply for his military rail card and National Express used to do one for coaches as well so when he does get time off if he doesn't want to use a warrent he can get a discount on his travel
  • ive just recently been through training at atr winchester and your son will get issued "silver shadow" trainers and wont be allowed to wear his own during pt sessions its not untill he has finished all his training that he can wear his own trainers. The only time you can wear your "own" things is when you get to go into winchester on a weekend which he will have to wear a smart pair of shoes as we were not allowed to wear trainers (thats how it was 4 months ago) so rather than trainers get a smart pair of shoes that he can wear with a pair of jeans anything else that your not sure of just ask as like i said i have only just left there. And dont worry about your son the training teams that they have got there are excellent and will help your son if he struggles with anything. :)
  • FureyFurey
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    loulou88 wrote: »
    Has anybody got any tips for him or any ideas what may be handy for him to take with him apart from the list the army gave him? Any tips would help.
    DO NOT BUY ALL THE ITEMS ON THAT LIST

    thats what everyone works out by the end of basic training. i dont know who wrote that list, but they couldnt have been associated with phase 1 training in any way. I spent £200 buying the items when i joined, so did everyone else in my platoon, only to find that the majority of the kit was locked in a cupboard for the duration of my training. all the instructors know about the stupidity of this list but wouldnt forward the problem up the chain of command. perhaps you could post up the list, people could probably tell you what he will really need. dont get trainers by the way, he wont be allowed to wear them anyway (issued silver shadows only).

    now i could be wrong about the list as i went to pirbright, and it was a while ago, but not much changes in the army.

    oh also if he has any outgoings please be aware that he will not get very much money during basic training. they give you pocket money in cash but i dont know what the hell they do with the rest. i went seriously overdrawn as i couldnt cover my loan payments.
    Debt free bangernomics die hard. Oldscool!
  • thanks that is very helpful as we were just debating if to buy new trainers or not. He has a new pair of smart shoes as he has just been to a funeral so they will be fine. Did you enjoy yourself. Did you go home after 6 weeks on a long weekend or stay on camp?
    lots of small steps
    will get you a long way
    bsc 140
  • Furey wrote: »
    DO NOT BUY ALL THE ITEMS ON THAT LIST

    thats what everyone works out by the end of basic training. i dont know who wrote that list, but they couldnt have been associated with phase 1 training in any way. I spent £200 buying the items when i joined, so did everyone else in my platoon, only to find that the majority of the kit was locked in a cupboard for the duration of my training. all the instructors know about the stupidity of this list but wouldnt forward the problem up the chain of command. perhaps you could post up the list, people could probably tell you what he will really need. dont get trainers by the way, he wont be allowed to wear them anyway (issued silver shadows only).

    now i could be wrong about the list as i went to pirbright, and it was a while ago, but not much changes in the army.

    oh also if he has any outgoings please be aware that he will not get very much money during basic training. they give you pocket money in cash but i dont know what the hell they do with the rest. i went seriously overdrawn as i couldnt cover my loan payments.

    Oh no! I have just spent a few hundred pounds on this list. I will be very p***ED OFF if they don't use this stuff as I am a single parent and only work 20 hours. I have realy struggled to get all this stuff.
    He has no loans or any other outgoings as he has only left school this year. So he is is going debt free hopefully he will stay that way.

    The list as given to us for winchester
    The Essentials

    Documents
    passport (if held),
    passport photos x 4,
    National insurance card (if held),
    Nhs card,
    Bank account sort code. You birth must open a bank account before arriving.
    Marriage certificate (if married),
    Birth certificate of any children,
    Any civilian qualification certificates,
    Any legal orders relating to divorce, custody, change of name etc.,
    details of any future court cases,
    national record of achievement,
    most recent school report,
    gcse and other educational certificates,

    clothing

    smrt civilian clothes; shirt (with collar) tie, smart trousers (not jeans) lace up shoes (not trainers),
    one or two sets of casual civiliam clothes for use out of work time,
    underwear for severn days,
    briefs for pt,
    socks x 4 pairs (socks to be worn with uniform and for pt will be issued to you),
    nightwear (you will be sharing a room),
    warm and waterproof outdoor coat,
    shower footwear such as flip flops,

    sports kit
    swimming trunks (not shorts),
    rugby/football boots, shim pads and gum shield (if held),


    General
    £50 cash,
    wristwatch (waterproof),
    an iron,
    combion padlock x 4 or 5,
    boot cleaning kit, brushes x2 and black polish (not liquid),
    sewing kit in a case (black, whiteand khaki thread, needles and safety pins),
    pens, including black permanent maker,
    important addresses (home, next of kin),

    wash kit/ personal
    razor, shaving foam/gel,
    shower gel/ soap,
    toothbrush and toothpaste,
    deodorant,
    towels x2

    AND YOU WONT NEED
    bed linen, blankets, pillows, duvet,

    useful extras

    sturdy coathangers (must be identical),
    writinig paper, envelopes, stamps,
    small black torch (eg. maglite),
    personal items (photos etc),
    mobile phone,
    swimming goggles,
    civilian sports kit, (of trainers, tracksuit,sweater, t-shirt, shorts etc. - two sets will be enough)

    let me know what you think of the list
    9 days and hes off.
    lots of small steps
    will get you a long way
    bsc 140
  • FureyFurey
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    loulou88 wrote: »
    Did you enjoy yourself. Did you go home after 6 weeks on a long weekend or stay on camp?
    np. oh yeah i went home alright, it was a massive relief to get out of camp. if he cant get home i'd suggest meeting him and spending a weekend in london or something. it would be a kick in the swadgers staying on camp!
    as to enjoying myself, well, its an experience that i wouldnt go through again put it that way!
    loulou88 wrote: »
    Oh no! I have just spent a few hundred pounds on this list. I will be very p***ED OFF if they don't use this stuff as I am a single parent and only work 20 hours. I have realy struggled to get all this stuff. sorry to hear it, i'll have a look at the list for you
    He has no loans or any other outgoings as he has only left school this year. So he is is going debt free hopefully he will stay that way.good good, but us squaddies dont stay debt free for long unfortunately!

    The list as given to us for winchester
    The Essentials

    Documents
    passport (if held),
    passport photos x 4,
    National insurance card (if held),
    Nhs card,
    Bank account sort code. You birth must open a bank account before arriving.
    Marriage certificate (if married),
    Birth certificate of any children,
    Any civilian qualification certificates,
    Any legal orders relating to divorce, custody, change of name etc.,
    details of any future court cases,
    national record of achievement,
    most recent school report,
    gcse and other educational certificates,
    all ok, dont see why the school stuff would be required though. btw dont let RBS con him into an army account, they are total scumbags that prey on financialy uneducated soldiers during training

    clothing

    smrt civilian clothes; shirt (with collar) tie, smart trousers (not jeans) lace up shoes (not trainers), this kit is for the one or two days out, doesnt have to be too smart but the army has a thing against jeans for some bizzare reason. tbh most people turn up looking like scumbags and
    nothing is said

    one or two sets of casual civiliam clothes for use out of work time,about right, you will wear issued tracksuits after hours anyway. make sure it's suitable for adventure training, ie. some tracky bottoms or something a bit sporty as well as a pair of normal jeans. take a pair of ordinary trainers to suppliment the smart shoes.

    underwear for seven days,

    briefs for pt,i'd just go commando

    socks x 4 pairs (socks to be worn with uniform and for pt will be issued to
    you),

    nightwear (you will be sharing a room), aka boxers

    warm and waterproof outdoor coat,also for adventure training, so dont take a really nice jacket

    shower footwear such as flip flops,these are esential- too many grotty feet in shared showers

    sports kit
    swimming trunks (not shorts),thats rubbish, you wear issued shorts in the pool. possibly get some bermuda shorts for potential days out at the pool, and phase 2

    rugby/football boots, shim pads and gum shield (if held),not needed. theres no time for football in phase 1!

    General
    £50 cash,cashpoints are available

    wristwatch (waterproof),essential

    an iron, handy, but can be borrowed anyway

    combion padlock x 4 or 5,one combi lock is fine, you get issued the rest

    boot cleaning kit, brushes x2 and black polish (not liquid),KIWI BLACK POLISH NOTHING ELSE WILL DO!

    sewing kit in a case (black, whiteand khaki thread, needles and safety pins),naffi on camp sell the best housewife kit tbh

    pens, including black permanent maker,
    important addresses (home, next of kin),

    wash kit/ personal
    razor, shaving foam/gel,
    shower gel/ soap,
    toothbrush and toothpaste,
    deodorant,
    towels x2 1x maximum as you get issued 2 towels anyway

    AND YOU WONT NEED
    bed linen, blankets, pillows, duvet,

    useful extras


    sturdy coathangers (must be identical),dont buy them as some platoons make everyone buy identical coathangers from the naafi for the sake of uniformity

    writinig paper, envelopes, stamps,for letters home. who writes letters home these days? dont bother!

    small black torch (eg. maglite),get a petzl LED head torch if you can, they are amazing. mini maglites are ok for a tenner though most of the time you cant turn torches on unless they have a red filter so dont worry if he hasnt got one at this stage

    personal items (photos etc),some 'old fashioned' developed photos of family/friends are really good for morale, mabee get a disposable camera now and he could snap his last days as a civvy?

    mobile phone, top ups are available from naafi

    swimming goggles,not required

    civilian sports kit, (of trainers, tracksuit,sweater, t-shirt, shorts etc. - two sets will be enough)2 sets of regular civvys and one smart set will be more than enough, he wont need this additional sports kit. mabee throw in some casual shorts

    let me know what you think of the list
    9 days and hes off.
    hope that helps a bit. good luck to him!
    Debt free bangernomics die hard. Oldscool!
  • Flip flops are a definite not just for the hygiene issue. Soft teenage feet will get blisters until their boots soften/ feet harden especially when they start doing boot runs. The best thing to help them heal is to allow air to get at them and not cover them with plasters/ zinc oxide tape 24/7.

    Do not waste money on a head torch unless it has got a coloured filter. You will not be able to use it on any military exercise as white light shows up miles away and also ruins your night vision (won't be able to see at night after using it). You need something like this:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Petzl-Tac-Tikka-Plus-Headtorch/dp/B0007Q3R3O

    You might be able to get it cheaper - I haven't shopped around.
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