Braking with the gears what ridiculous practice

tomstickland

The video was a bit excessive, I agree. But so am I.
I think the best method would be:
-select a gear like 3rd or 4th when approaching
-use brakes to slow vehicle
-when revs are quite low then select another gear

TBH, in terms of road safety this is well down the list. A large proportion of people wouldn't even be able to tell you what they did, so low is their interest.

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Idiophreak wrote: »

Not so - brakes don't just lock when you stamp on them...when there's very little friction between the tyre and the road (like, for instance, when it's covered with ice), it can take the slightest of touches on the brakes for it to lock the wheels up...that's just simple physics...

And when the same ice exists on a corner you're navigating, dropping down through the gearbox will almost certainly result in instant uncontrollable oversteer for most vehicles. The correct course of action is, of course, to note the conditions and drive accordingly in the first place.

You're probably talking about sheet ice on a snow-covered road. I'm talking about the small patch of black ice on a cold day.

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Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers! wrote: »

And when the same ice exists on a corner you're navigating, dropping down through the gearbox will almost certainly result in instant uncontrollable oversteer for most vehicles. The correct course of action is, of course, to note the conditions and drive accordingly in the first place.

Totally agree.;)

pault123

JoeyG wrote: »

Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but excessively low revs (eg 20mph in 6th gear) places excessive strain on the reciprocating components, such as engine bearings, connector rods, crankshaft and pistons.

Therefore, selecting the right gear for your speed will preserve the longevity or your engine, irrespective of whether your speed is increasing or descreasing

I don't know specific speeds as its not something I think about.

As long as the revs are healthy ie. above 1100, and the engine isn't labouring the engine will be fine. If i'm in 6th with foot off the revs and the engine is slowing, before the engine labours I will switch to 5th.

I certainly wouldn't switch to 5th before the engine was ready though, in order to achieve the same affect as pressing the brake.

Idiophreak

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers! wrote: »

And when the same ice exists on a corner you're navigating, dropping down through the gearbox will almost certainly result in instant uncontrollable oversteer for most vehicles.

eh? Who said anything about steering at all?

Conor_3

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers! wrote: »

And when the same ice exists on a corner you're navigating, dropping down through the gearbox will almost certainly result in instant uncontrollable oversteer for most vehicles.

So would braking. Anyone with any ability would already be at the speed they need to be before they got to the corner.

Conor_3

pault123 wrote: »

Why do HGV's keep making there way into this conversation?

I should hope so too in a haulage company but 99% of car drivers don't check there tyre pressure oil and water EVERY day!!!

Most don't check from one service to the next.

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Idiophreak wrote: »

eh? Who said anything about steering at all?

Even when pointing dead ahead you're still steering. Or have you never dealt with camber before? Oversteer can be introduced even when driving in a straight line.

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Conor wrote: »

So would braking. Anyone with any ability would already be at the speed they need to be before they got to the corner.

.;..the purpose being to ensure the vehicle is correctly balanced and that both hands are on the wheel.

banger9365

i give up ,
CAR drivers are allways right, they are the best drivers on the road
i really can not boverd trying to explain what you do wrong any more
because you are right all the time and we are wrong ,i will not comment on this any more ,end of ,full stop