free xtra benefits???

mitchaa

cheap_charlie wrote: »

You clearly state you do not "need" the Child Benefit you receive for your son yet you still claim it.

What then gives you the right to complain about other benefits and comment, from a somewhat smug perspective I might add, upon the fact you feel there are no excuses for child poverty?

As a recession looms and more people find themselves reliant upon benefits I hope this smug attitude of those who are doing OK recedes a little.

I do not need the CB for my son, no. But when he is 18 and there's £30k or so waiting there for him, i'm sure he will appreciate why i did that for him.

I also see it as a way of getting back a tiny portion of the tax i have put in. If i can claim back £978per year back from the £12,000 i paid in tax last year, then it makes it a little better for me to stomach. Hey at least it's not £12k of my cash just wasted, only £11k. That's the way i look at it.

Your point about the upcoming recession, go onto all the various jobsites and see how many jobs are available. I believe there are over 1million jobs currently being advertised. The recession is an excuse for unemployment, many people can walk out of 1 job straight into another within the matter of a week.

No-one should rely on benefits apart from the severely sick and disabled who cannot work. Everyone else does not have an excuse i'm afraid. There are plenty of jobs out there, its just some people would rather choose the easy option and claim from the never ending pot of benefit funds.

I too will bow out of this thread now, it's going way of topic and is of no help to the O.P.

This 1 is ready for the MSE scrapheap.

moggylover

mitchaa wrote: »

Who is the 1 being unpleasant in their posts? Like i said the figures i have posted are more than enough. It shocks me to think people want more of the tax payers money:rolleyes:

The £18.80pw CB i receive for my son every 4wks is put straight into his savings account and he will receive it all back on his 18th birthday. I didn't need it before he was born, i don't need it now so i use it as an investment for him. I realise for low income families, they depend on this money so cant do this but all i was trying to get across is that this money could be more wisely spent. The amounts given as shown in my previous post £6k+ is very generous and there should be no excuses for child poverty.

I hope you were not suggesting i would send my child to a school solely based on that of the uniform policy, is that the best you can do:rolleyes:

I dont see why you are getting upset at my posts? I find your posts to me far more ''ignorant'' than mine as you are attacking me, but yet i have never attacked you

I think the overwhelming response to the tone and visciousness of your posts about the OP and anyone else who has the temerity to not live according to YOUR set of rules speaks for itself.

I am disgusted by your attitude - not on my own behalf - but on behalf of humanity.

FYI - you may have been paying £12 tax recently - I was doing so 20 years ago when all those noughts actually added up to something - difference was I was just grateful that I was not at the bottom of the pile instead of comfortably cushioned - but that, I suspect, was because I can see that life does not always go the way people want it to, no-matter how hard they try - and I considered myself fortunate that my efforts had amounted to something, and sorry for those whose efforts had not.

For me, the most compelling difference between the human race and animals is that we (mostly) care for, help and support those amongst us that are sick, injured, weaker than us - where animals will ostracise or kill their weak, sick or injured. We have (or are supposed to have) compassion!

I am glad that you are not struggling to being up your child, they are a precious gift and should be cherished - but spare a though for those that have never been cherished, not even in their childhood - that do not have the skills or talents to get on in this life: but still try to do their best by their children. I also, offer you more kindness than you offer the OP or others in her circumstances, by hoping that life never kicks you down to that level - it did me - and it hurt like hell - but I still consider myself fortunate that it did not manage to kill off my compassion for others, nor my willingness to know that there may be a multitude of circumstances that bought them to this point. And I thank God daily that it did not make me bitter, twisted and cruel to those less fortunate than even I am today!

moggylover

krisskross wrote: »

I think this post probably proves the point that child related benefits just go into the 'pot' and are not used solely for the benefit of the child but treated as 'income'. I would not send my 4 year old to a school that had such a strict uniform policy, in fact I have not known it before in primary school except for private schools.

I can only say that most of the schools in this area (even primary) have fairly strict rules on uniform, and ALL of the secondary ones do.

As to child related benefits "going into the pot" - it is government policy to adjust other benefits around these and treat them as normal income (all except CB) and thus most people do not have the option to treat them as a separate income for the child alone to have as savings when old enough to enjoy them:o - personally, I would love to be able to do this - but it is no more what they were intended for than paying normal household bills is!

Loopy_Girl

mitchaa wrote: »

I do not need the CB for my son, no. But when he is 18 and there's £30k or so waiting there for him, i'm sure he will appreciate why i did that for him.

I also see it as a way of getting back a tiny portion of the tax i have put in. If i can claim back £978per year back from the £12,000 i paid in tax last year, then it makes it a little better for me to stomach. Hey at least it's not £12k of my cash just wasted, only £11k. That's the way i look at it.

Whilst I admire your optimism for your son's future, do not be so sure that things will change in the future...who knows what could happen and you will need that CB.

I don't get my CB and think 'right, that MUST be spent on daughter' but then again when I get my wages that I have earned things are bought for her from them..so it's all swings and roundabouts really:o

And finally Mitchaa, if you have such low regard for the taxation and benefit system then there is nothing stopping you residing in the UK is there? You could go to a little tax haven of a place and then have nothing to whine about...job's a good 'un.

You really do live up to the name of a Aberdonian who hangs on to the purse strings eh?! (yes I'm Scottish so can say that;) )

clairec79

For those of you who the school insist on logoed polo shirts check with the official supplier - mine will embrodier the school logo onto a top for a few quid - so can buy a pack of the Tesco polo shirts and get them made into official shirts cheaper than buying the one from the same shop (however I tend to get round it with my daughters by putting them in pinafore dresses as that covers up where the logo is)

moggylover

clairec79 wrote: »

For those of you who the school insist on logoed polo shirts check with the official supplier - mine will embrodier the school logo onto a top for a few quid - so can buy a pack of the Tesco polo shirts and get them made into official shirts cheaper than buying the one from the same shop (however I tend to get round it with my daughters by putting them in pinafore dresses as that covers up where the logo is)

Tried this myself claire - but neither of the two suppliers around here will do so - cos somehow the logo "belongs" to the shyster of a wholesaler in nearest big town!

Unfortunately, my son refuses to wear a pinafore (or for that matter any dress ) and the damn polos are red anyway:mad: . AND he got in to trouble cos a friend gave me a couple of older ones that her son had when at same school - and they were a different shade of red - but with logo! They got short shrift on that I'm afraid! Red marks for something that is not their fault at all my foot!

N71

clairec79 wrote: »

For those of you who the school insist on logoed polo shirts check with the official supplier - mine will embrodier the school logo onto a top for a few quid - so can buy a pack of the Tesco polo shirts and get them made into official shirts cheaper than buying the one from the same shop (however I tend to get round it with my daughters by putting them in pinafore dresses as that covers up where the logo is)

Yes, i got nice quality sweatshirts on 3 for 2 for my son, and got them embroidered at a local uniform supplier shop so ended up with 3 good quality, embroidered sweatshirts for less than the price of two of the official school shabby ones.

But, when I asked the shop about doing the same for my daughters school, they're not allowed as they are in a contract with the school PTA, and they're only allowed to sell them to the PTA in bulk. PTA then add a £1 or so on and sell them to us mugs!!

Luckily DD is in primary school and they only insist on the logo's cardi/sweatshirt, the rest can be bought from asda.
DS is just about to start secondary, but its a special needs school and uniform is optional.

I've noticed that at least 3 secondary schools in the area have changed their uniforms over the last couple of years, to logo'd jumpers/blazers/tank tops, and hideous tartan/check skirts for the girls, obviously only available from the school and pricey i imagine.

Is this just a Merseyside thing or is it happening at secondary schools across the country?

Scarlett1

mitchaa wrote: »

The £18.80pw CB i receive for my son every 4wks is put straight into his savings account and he will receive it all back on his 18th

You will cashing in your child benefit quick enough when you son gets to the stage of needing school uniform and shoes, then you will more than likely have after school clubs to pay for or hobbies such as swimming, football, scouts, rugby etc, then you have school trips and donations, raffle tickets and sponsored skip etc.

krisskross

Scarlett1 wrote: »

You will cashing in your child benefit quick enough when you son gets to the stage of needing school uniform and shoes, then you will more than likely have after school clubs to pay for or hobbies such as swimming, football, scouts, rugby etc, then you have school trips and donations, raffle tickets and sponsored skip etc.

It doesn't sound like he will. Some people actually can afford to pay for what their children need without handouts.

Loopy_Girl

See now that comment would have more clout if he wasn't actually claiming the 'handout'..

And I agree he probably won't struggle. Only because he will be getting the cheap as chips £4 uniform (or whatever it will be then) that you can shoot peas through and when it is washed the seams will never quite match up...lovely

My daughter has a school uniform and whilst it is not compulsory it is 'strongly encouraged' (think they are scared to say compulsory in case some Human Rights brigade come trundling in!). It was one of the reasons I chose that school. I like to see all the kids in their smart uniforms and it gives them a sense of pride I think. The local high school have recently introduced a school uniform and that was because the KIDS were pushing for it!!!:T