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moanymoany

I am making a bunker under the stairs. Having kept the ‘Civil Defence’ leaflets from the 60’s on what to do when the bomb drops I’m pretty sure I know what to do.

We have camping gear and dashes to the kitchen for water fortunately our portapotty is in working order. Just need to stock up on essentials from Tesco. Must try to get a wind up gramophone and a few discs.

Me, dh and the Yorkshire Terrier should be nice and cosy.

Trembling vibrato… I’m gonna hang out the washing on the sub-prime line, have you any dirty washing mother dear?

neverdespairgirl

Ron2256 wrote: »

Is that what you would call the people who killed the 2 french students in London?
Stabbed 250 times and then burned for a laptop and a console.
That's not human.

It is, sadly, human.

We don't yet know who did it, so we don't yet know why. Undoubtedly a horrific crime - but not committed by some other species.

neverdespairgirl

Captain_Mainwaring wrote: »

like suicide is "dealing with problems in my life" -

Actually, suicide can be the best way of dealing with some problems.

BobProperty

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

Actually, suicide can be the best way of dealing with some problems.

I have to say very few. All too often it is "a permanent solution to a temporary problem".

mardatha

From a spiritualist point of view , suicide is a BIG mistake! LOL!

neverdespairgirl

I argree, very few problems. But I can think of some - for example, suicide seems to some terminally-ill people a way of dying with dignity, at a time and place of their choosing.

dopester

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

It is, sadly, human.

We don't yet know who did it, so we don't yet know why. Undoubtedly a horrific crime - but not committed by some other species.

Obviously I want those responsible to face trial and justice to be done... but I do understand the nature of human violence.

One of the lamentable principles of human productivity is that it is easier to destroy than create. A house that takes several man-years to build can be destroyed in an hour by any young deliquent who has the price of a box of matches...

The power to hurt - to destroy things that somebody treasures, to inflict pain and grief - is a kind of bargaining power, not easy to use, but used often. In the underworld it is the basis for blackmail, extortation, and kidnapping, in the commerical world, for boycotts, strikes, and lockouts... it underlies the humane as well as the corporal punishments that society uses to deter crime and delinquency.... It is often the basis for discipline, civilian and military: and gods use it to exact obediences.

-Thomas Schelling
Arms and Influence

Humans always have incentives to employ violence to obtain what they want. Yet this is a fact that most peaceful cultures discourage individuals from bringing clearly into focus.

You have often heard it said that "crime is a sickness" or "war never solves anything." Such views are profoundly misleading. They reflect a combination of wishful thinking and the workings of a taboo against violence that is an important cultural contribution to civic peace. Encouraging people to believe violence never achieves anything can be a useful way to discourage freelance violence.

But it would be a mistake for you to stop thinking at the boundary of this taboo. Some criminals are sick. Some wars are indeed economic disasters, launched by madmen. But to focus on the deranged unwholesome character of those who resort to violence is to miss its deeper logic.

The reason that people resort to violence is that it often pays. In some ways the simplest thing a man can do if he wants money is to take it. That is no less true for an army of men taking an oil field than it is for a single thug taking a wallet. Power, as William Playfair wrote, "has always sought the readiest road to wealth, by attacking those who were in possession of it."

The challenge to prosperity is precisely because predatory violence does pay well in many circumstances. War does change things. It changes the rules. It changes the distribution of assets and income. It even determines who lives and who dies. It is precisely the fact that violence does pay that makes it hard to control.

Even more troublesome and confusing to many people is the fact that the chief deterrent to predatory violence is the threat of greater force, sufficient force to insure that violence, for all its simplicity, will not pay. This is the paradox of violence.

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BACKFRMTHEEDGE

Captain_Mainwaring wrote: »

You can't eat an extension.

No - but apparently we're all over weight anyway....;)