Rising tide of bad debts will flood over banks

Nomad25

I can't help but agree both with !!!!!! and MooMoo.

The last time the UK went through a really tough time, society was in a very different 'place'. People lived with or around family in geographical areas that their lineage had populated for a good few years, so that would have fairly automatically led to both social and family cohesion.

We all know how fragmented the indigenous populace has become, mix in an increasing amount of ethnicity, who it has to said are more cohesive as family/tribal [using that term loosley] units and you get a completely disjointed society.

chrisandanne

Surely, the have nots in society still won't have....an economic downturn doesn't affect people with nothing...it affects people with something to lose.

So the people who are 'feral' now will probably hardly notice a change. The people who lose through this will still endevour to bring their children up to respect others because that's nothing to do with money.

My Dad lives with us (he's 91 y'know) born 1917. So I asked him what the depression was like in the 30's......he said 'it didn't affect us, we had nothing anyway'. A x

m00m00

it's different though, a completely different mentality

as the feral youth believe they have a RIGHT to everything, but a duty to no one. It's a generation spawned that believes that self satisfaction is the greatest good, and that nothing should be allowed to get in the way of that. Hence the utter casual attitude to human life that is become more and more widespread. Other people are no longer seen as ends in themselves, just as a means to an end.

chrisandanne

m00m00 wrote: »

it's different though, a completely different mentality

as the feral youth believe they have a RIGHT to everything, but a duty to no one. It's a generation spawned that believes that self satisfaction is the greatest good, and that nothing should be allowed to get in the way of that. Hence the utter casual attitude to human life that is become more and more widespread. Other people are no longer seen as ends in themselves, just as a means to an end.

Not all of them..not a whole generation though, you are probably 'this' generation and you can think beyond yourself...there always will be and always have been the 'takers'.

I do agree that it will bring the worst out in some people and society as a whole is becoming more violent anyway but a society where the rich are poorer will not inflame the have not masses.. they will just carry on as they were before.

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amcluesent

>the feral youth believe they have a RIGHT to everything, but a duty to no one<

These kids need a good war to sort them out. And ones coming, thanks to Iran and their nuclear missile programme.

arealbasketcase

Wasn't this thread titled "Rising tide of bad debts will flood over banks"?

How did it degenerate into a bash the youth and the whole population of the UK? Since it has can I point out, sorry to repeat what others have said:

Migration is far from new, the vast majority of the US & Australians populations are of immigrant decent.

The Industrial Revolution made mass movement of the population common place and society survived.

Global tragedy brings out the best in people, how much did you give to the Indonesian Tsunami, did you think about it first or was it instinct?

I could go on but I won't. I have had the good fortune to live in several other countries and wouldn't swap my UK citizenship for any other.

Nomad25

What officially qualifies as a generation in years - 20, 30?

Whichever we are talking several generations right now.

If we have a majority who believe they have a right to whatever they want and it's not coming their way by 'fair' means, what concerns me is a % will find it's very easy to self-justify making one small first step in obtaining it by a variety of illicit methods.

WTF?_2

amcluesent wrote: »

>the feral youth believe they have a RIGHT to everything, but a duty to no one<

These kids need a good war to sort them out. And ones coming, thanks to Iran and their nuclear missile programme.

I agree there's a war coming there but if you think it's about protecting the west from Weapons of Mass Destruction you have had the wool well and truly pulled over your eyes ... again.

arealbasketcase

Nomad25 wrote: »

What officially qualifies as a generation in years - 20, 30?

Whichever we are talking several generations right now.

If we have a majority who believe they have a right to whatever they want and it's not coming their way by 'fair' means, what concerns me is a % will find it's very easy to self-justify making one small first step in obtaining it by a variety of illicit methods.

By that definition the 80's generation of East Germany would have grown to accept that living under communist suppression was the norm so let's just carry on.

Society grows and develops, sometimes elements aren't perfect but that's life but then the pendulum swings and a new generation makes it's changes to the society in which it lives. We do not stand still whilst the planet revolves, we move with the times. Did th world accept to be a black south africa living under apartheid was OK?

chrisandanne

Nomad25 wrote: »

What officially qualifies as a generation in years - 20, 30?

Whichever we are talking several generations right now.

If we have a majority who believe they have a right to whatever they want and it's not coming their way by 'fair' means, what concerns me is a % will find it's very easy to self-justify making one small first step in obtaining it by a variety of illicit methods.

I have no doubt you are right..a % WILL take from others what they perceive to be theirs by right... but I think the majority will just get on with life in changed circumstances.

Life after all is not an unchanging landscape whatever the national/global economies are doing...we encounter change all the time through our lives...sometimes things are going well and we can have lots of 'stuff' other times we have problems and find ourselves in 'dire straights'.....it's all part of life and most people just deal with it.....(some jump off buildings) but they're a minority as well. :eek: A x