Advice for a tennant please.

silvercar

Anyone else thinking this LL doesn't really care about the property? If the previous tenants moved out and the LL put the gas account into his name, BG would probably not have even attempted to take the meter and if they did the LL could have attended court to request the application was denied.

Disagree, if the landlord wanted to be devious he could get a gas safety certificate done now with no gas supply. CORGI guy will check for no leak and give certificate valid for one year! Technically, a property with gas pipe work but no working gas appliances should still be checked out.

Dangerous for landlord to hold utility bills in his name as he then becomes responsible for tenants payments and debts.

silvercar

Hit return to soon!

I don't know why people think that being a landlord empowers you to wave a magic want in the direction of utility companies, British Gas will work at their own speed whether it is tenants or landlords demanding supply.

Premier_2

silvercar wrote: »

Disagree, if the landlord wanted to be devious he could get a gas safety certificate done now with no gas supply. CORGI guy will check for no leak and give certificate valid for one year! Technically, a property with gas pipe work but no working gas appliances should still be checked out.

Dangerous for landlord to hold utility bills in his name as he then becomes responsible for tenants payments and debts.

How exactly can a corgi engineer legally provide a CP12 without a gas supply. One off the checks made is a pressure drop. There's no gas to turn on to get the pressure in the first place.

The LL would only be responsible for the debts if he allowed the suppy to remain in his responsibility whilst there were tenants. When there are void periods, even if only a day or so, the LL should put the accounts in his name.

NUFCnutter

I think its to safeguard himself tbh. The agency I am letting through will not let the property without the CP12 (is it not a legal requirement to have a cp12?). I am fine about going without gas for a few days, but it is the letting agency not allowing me to move into the property without the CP12. I am sure this must be incase it came back to bite them in some way.

Loretta

silvercar wrote: »

Hit return to soon!

I don't know why people think that being a landlord empowers you to wave a magic want in the direction of utility companies, British Gas will work at their own speed whether it is tenants or landlords demanding supply.

Before a L/L lets a property he should make sure it is ready for new tenants, gas cedrtificate repairs done and know for sure that the basic services are available, this L/L has just not bothered

Loretta

PasturesNew wrote: »

It might sound like a stupid question, but do you NEED hot water/heating in the short-term?

e.g. if there is an electric shower then use that - when I was growing up we had one bath a week and that was normal for people; use a kettle to boil water for washing up; take washing down the launderette.

You won't need heating - it's the summer. Put on a jumper. I've not used an ounce of heating since about March.

This is instead of having nowhere to live.

The OP has 3 children under 10, why should she struggle when the L/L should have the place ready, it is his business after all

NUFCnutter

Thanks Loretta. PAasturesnew, basically yes there is a shower, there is jumpers (and believe me, myself and the children wrap up warm when we need to in the winter before putting the heating on~cost of gas and all) BUT THEY CANNOT LET IT WITHOUT A CP12 CERTIFICATE. I scrimp and save as it is, but I cannot provide a roof over my head if the letting agency will not let me move in CAN I?

Gasha

Could I add in here for future reference for people that if the Supplier has applied to remove the meter and done so there is no way of the Landlord knowing this.
Utility suppliers won't take a LL's details only the Tenant's whom they supply the service to.
Thus it is possible that the Landlord nor the agent had any idea that the meter had gone.
As far as the comment about the LL not bothering too much with his property you have stated that there is an agent involved and he/she is responsible for making such checks if they are fully managing the property (although if this agent has only JUST been appointed then yes the onus is on the LL to give the agent such information BEFORE they advertise it/ take it on)
If the agent was responsible for the property prior to all this then he /she really should have realised that there was no gas supply.

Loretta

Gasha wrote: »

Could I add in here for future reference for people that if the Supplier has applied to remove the meter and done so there is no way of the Landlord knowing this.
Utility suppliers won't take a LL's details only the Tenant's whom they supply the service to.
Thus it is possible that the Landlord nor the agent had any idea that the meter had gone.
As far as the comment about the LL not bothering too much with his property you have stated that there is an agent involved and he/she is responsible for making such checks if they are fully managing the property (although if this agent has only JUST been appointed then yes the onus is on the LL to give the agent such information BEFORE they advertise it/ take it on)
If the agent was responsible for the property prior to all this then he /she really should have realised that there was no gas supply.

I did mean L/L or LA whoever was in charge of dealing with this property, whoever was letting this property should have made sure it was ready to let before they took someone's money and entered into a contract, that is surely common sense.

If the L/L or LA is preparing a property for a let in a couple of days time they would have surely by now have done the 'make' ie prepared the detailed inventory ready for the check in and I would imagine that part of that would be obtaining the gas safety certificate in good time to make sure there would be a vaild one in time for the start of a new tenancy and to check if any repairs are needed. That is what L/Ls or LA or any organsied person running a business would do isn't it?

moneysavinmonkey

hello, at the risk of repeating myself here - have you signed a tenancy agreement with an agreed start date??????????????????????????


If the answer is yes but the property is not habitable on this date then the landlord needs to find you suitable alternative accommodation and recompense you any expenses arising from this mistake (e.g. your van hire)

MSM