Full time education no money

nad1611

HI all I wonder if anyone has any thoughts on the fact that my daughter is doing a full time course at College and until this year has been able to receive EMA. This has now come to an end as will the child benefit etc that we receive for her.
Because she entered the course at 18 this years part of the course will be paid. We are not able to keep her but we will, we have tried ALF but she doesn't qualify. Fortunately the course spans 3 days so she will be available to work but I don't want the course to suffer if she's working as well for all her free days.
Any suggestions?

Lokolo

Working is a part of life, she needs the money, she works, simple as. Having college 3 days a week gives plenty of time to earn money without affecting her studies.

Pont

NAD1611 wrote: »

HI all I wonder if anyone has any thoughts on the fact that my daughter is doing a full time course at College and until this year has been able to receive EMA. This has now come to an end as will the child benefit etc that we receive for her.
Because she entered the course at 18 this years part of the course will be paid. We are not able to keep her but we will, we have tried ALF but she doesn't qualify. Fortunately the course spans 3 days so she will be available to work but I don't want the course to suffer if she's working as well for all her free days.
Any suggestions?

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/EducationAndLearning/AdultLearning/Adultlearninggrant/DG_068346

You've probably already checked this out. I've scanned through quickly and it seems that your daughter needs to be 19 to qualify. Has she tried the Learner Support Fund (used to be known as Hardship/Access Funds) at her college? Perhaps it is worth giving your LEA a call as well - as some authorities have money set aside for such cases. Also worth considering that if your daughter finds a job for 16 hours a week she could possibly claim tax credits which may compensate for the loss of CB and EMA.

Oldernotwiser

Pont wrote: »

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/EducationAndLearning/AdultLearning/Adultlearninggrant/DG_068346

You've probably already checked this out. I've scanned through quickly and it seems that your daughter needs to be 19 to qualify. Has she tried the Learner Support Fund (used to be known as Hardship/Access Funds) at her college? Perhaps it is worth giving your LEA a call as well - as some authorities have money set aside for such cases. Also worth considering that if your daughter finds a job for 16 hours a week she could possibly claim tax credits which may compensate for the loss of CB and EMA.

You can't get tax credits under the age of 25.

nad1611

Lokolo wrote: »

Working is a part of life, she needs the money, she works, simple as. Having college 3 days a week gives plenty of time to earn money without affecting her studies.

Yes working is part of life but even full time workers get a day off, with the job she has found she needs to work for all of her free days, which would I believe affect her studies.

nad1611

Pont wrote: »

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/EducationAndLearning/AdultLearning/Adultlearninggrant/DG_068346

You've probably already checked this out. I've scanned through quickly and it seems that your daughter needs to be 19 to qualify. Has she tried the Learner Support Fund (used to be known as Hardship/Access Funds) at her college? Perhaps it is worth giving your LEA a call as well - as some authorities have money set aside for such cases. Also worth considering that if your daughter finds a job for 16 hours a week she could possibly claim tax credits which may compensate for the loss of CB and EMA.

Unfortunately she does not qualify I can't remember which one but either the LSF or ALF you need to be on a vocational type course which she is not. Also someone else has stated that you can't get Tax credit under 25. Oh well thought I'd try.

JimmyTheWig

Is there not a different job she could find?
Presumably you are not charging her rent, but would expect her to make a contribution to her keep?

How much EMA did she get?
How much child benefit, etc, did you get for her?
Did she have a paid job when getting this other money?

How many hours a week are her lessons?
How many hours a week on top of that is she expected to study?

Oldernotwiser

NAD1611 wrote: »

Unfortunately she does not qualify I can't remember which one but either the LSF or ALF you need to be on a vocational type course which she is not. Also someone else has stated that you can't get Tax credit under 25. Oh well thought I'd try.

If by ALF you mean the Adult Learning Grant then it doesn't have to be for a vocational course. However, it does have to be for the first qualification at that particular level (either 2 or 3). I assume that your daughter already has a qualification at the level she's now studying for. What is she doing and what qualifications does she already have?

Pont

Learner Support Fund

Who is eligible?

To be eligible to apply, you must:

• be 16 or over (including those in sixth forms)
• have been accepted onto and be studying a programme of learning funded by the Learning and Skills Council

Colleges determine priority groups and maximum amounts they award. Common priority groups are:

• students who are economically disadvantaged (such as those on benefit or a low income)
• those aged over 19 who don't have a Level 2 qualification
• students who have been in care or on probation, young parents and others considered 'at risk'

• Qualifications: what the different levels mean

Who is not eligible?

You can't claim if you are:

• under 16
• an Asylum Seeker aged over 19
• receiving full public funding for higher education
• on a learndirect course
• on a New Deal programme (except New Deal for Lone Parents)
• on an apprenticeship training scheme
• on a Work Based Learning course
• on an Adult & Community Learning course (ACL)

Scarlett1

NAD1611 wrote: »

Yes working is part of life but even full time workers get a day off, with the job she has found she needs to work for all of her free days, which would I believe affect her studies.

She can either work 2 days and have the weekend to study or work the weekend and have the 2 days to study, it can be done as thousands of other students have to do it to get by , I had to flip burgers in macdonalds for the money, maybe your daughter can find a job in a supermarket or fast food chain where she can pick and choose her hours

JimmyTheWig

Scarlett1 wrote: »

She can either work 2 days and have the weekend to study or work the weekend and have the 2 days to study, it can be done as thousands of other students have to do it to get by , I had to flip burgers in macdonalds for the money, maybe your daughter can find a job in a supermarket or fast food chain where she can pick and choose her hours

It does somewhat depend on how much money she needs coming in. That's what I was trying to assertain im my previous post.
I agree, though, I would have thought that she would have enough money from working 2 days a week.