Moving BT Master Socket?

cajef

ormus wrote: »

routers work best into the master socket.

Where did that come from, I get the same speed and stats on my router whether I am plugged into the master socket test point or my extension upstairs where the computer is.

isofa

cajef wrote: »

Where did that come from, I get the same speed and stats on my router whether I am plugged into the master socket test point or my extension upstairs where the computer is.

It's a well reported fact, as most people's extension wiring isn't good quality, so most get a better connection from a master socket. The longer the extension from the master, along low quality (not cat-5) cable, the lower the quality signal.

Search the ADSL forums such as those at www.thinkbroadband.com and you'll find many discussions of technical details supporting this.

cajef

isofa wrote: »

It's a well reported fact, as most people's extension wiring isn't good quality, so most get a better connection from a master socket. The longer the extension from the master, along low quality (not cat-5) cable, the lower the quality signal.

Search the ADSL forums such as those at www.thinkbroadband.com and you'll find many discussions of technical details supporting this.

Exactly, it is nothing to do with the router it is the quality of the wiring, considering most peoples telephone cable can run hundreds of yards or even several miles from the exchange, another few metres providing it is good quality twisted pair cable is hardly going to make any difference.

I have a wired extension which I did myself using good quality cable and as I said my speeds and stats are the same at either socket.

Linbox

Marty_J wrote: »

I think it would be pretty easy to tell if you used non-BT grade materials. And not to mention master sockets are generally placed right where the BT wiring enters the property. And yes, I do think a BT tech would care about people messing around with BT's network; it's his job.

It's not your master socket.

Hmm...

While I agree its not your master socket,
1. Moving is not replacing.
The cable is 4/6/8 (2/3/6 pair) solid core cable, its a generic cable. Most after market equipment is made to the same standards as bt's, so please tell me why you can buy master and extension sockets and telephone cable?

2. No, its their job to replace or repair the equipment up to the master socket or to the incoming JB. Not to care about what customers do in their own home.

They will replace a faulty master socket and any cabling to it but they are not liable for any other equipment connected to it.

Linbox

espresso wrote: »

This is very bad advice from a so called telecoms engineer as only one master socket should ever be connected to a land line!

:rolleyes:

Sorry your answer is wrong.

espresso

Linbox wrote: »

Sorry your answer is wrong.

Please do explain as you seem to think that you know all about this subject.

:rotfl:

mk-donald

Well I remember when I had a BT Master Socket fitted by a BT Engineer when I had an Engineer install ADSL 'frog' installed in 2001 - cost me £75 for the privilege.

He got out a meter and measured the line attenuation at my BT socket (by the front door) and said it was at 55dB almost at the limit for ADSL, and 6 months earlier I wouldn't have been able to have it!

He asked me where I planned to use the ADSL - showed him the 3rd 'spare' bedroom/office upstairs which already had a DIY telephone extension wire running up from (the front of) the BT socket.

He said it would be best for the new BT master socket WITH "ADSL 1.0" filtered plate to be next to the computer, so he:
- used one of the pairs (or 3 wires?) of my existing extension wiring to extend the "BT" line up to the 'office' where he fitted the master socket
- used another pair (or 3?) of my existing extension wiring to carry the "in house extension" line back to the BT socket by the front door.
- fitted that extension wiring into the BACK of the BT socket by the front door, leaving my OTHER extension wiring out of that BT socket.

Had another BT engineer puzzled, but not surprised, a few years later when he visited to fix an ADSL fault but couldn't find anything amiss (solved by him THEN visiting the exchange and repatching).

I guess now that I'm ADSL2+'ing for £7.50 at 12x the speed of that initial ADSL at £40/month, I ought to rejig it all properly - might gain a bit from removing the ancient/el cheapo extension wiring from the equation somehow.

Incisor

isofa wrote: »

They can easily tell if it's been disconnected and reconnected. They can easily tell if you've extended wiring.

Often, but not always.

Hotspur

Thought I'd update everyone kind enough to assist me.

I'm up and running with the O2 router using the extension, took all on 15 minutes including a quick call to a helpful guy at customer services at 10PM!. Speed is around 3 meg, faster and cheaper than virginmedia so I'm a happy bunny.

:beer:

dmmsta

One thing to remember is that the speed of the a wifi connection is only relevant when transferring data across the internal (inside you home) network.

Even with the faster (30-50MBps) connections available these days most people are on 6-15MBps ADSL, with the majority of WiFi connections using Wireless G (54MBps) the bottle neck is with the ADSL connection not the WiFi connection.