Flippant Police

KILL_BILL

shaymenRup wrote: »

Two issues here.

The first is unfortunately bike theft is one of the lesser crimes and rightly should not have the same time and resources spent on it as a serious assault or burglary. I find it unlikely that a Detective Sergeant would be investigating such a minor crime (usually a uniform Police Constable).

Secondly you mention CCTV - I will assume that you left your bike (near a camera) at 9am (for example) and returned at 5pm (for example) and discovered it missing. That is 8 hours of CCTV footage that needs viewing to discover the time of the theft. Then the CCTV will need processing to identify the culprits. Thats is providing a) the CCTV works, b) it records , c) the person who owns it wants to assist the police in downloading it (don't assume they will) d) the footage quality is any good e) the footage is of sufficient quality to identify anyone.

Given the vast amount of resources that this would entail I can understand why the police didn't seem enthusiastic.

If on the other hand the footage showing the theft had been located, the film was good quality and easily downloadable then you should complain to the police inspector at the station in question. Make sure the complaint is taken in writing and that you are provided with a point of contact.

ive examined the cctv footage myself as i left the bike for just over an hour so have the exact time that it was taken - can see the culprits as well.

ive made a complaint more about the ds unprofessionalism - rather than anything else - if he had said that due to lack of resources etc etc etc then that sounds much better than we cant be arsed.

diplomacy, tack and professionalism is never a ds showing

fifi35

I don't think we are getting the full picture here. Obviously the poster is angry at having his bike stolen however it is wrong to blame the police.

First off a Ds (detective Sergeant) would not be involved in the mere theft of a bike. A Ds would be trying to investigate serious crime such as the recent spate of senseless stabbings in London at the moment.

I suspect the Cctv has been checked and the poster just doesn't like the answer.

It would be quite easy to find out who the officer is that dealt with your crime. If you really are unhappy with the way in which it was dealt with then you must make an official complaint and it will be investigated. However as I suspect perhaps you are just very angry at having your bike stolen and need someone to blame. I suggest if this is the case then the police's time would be better spent investigating these serious crimes rather than trivial and vindictive complaints.

Blacksheep1979

KILL_BILL wrote: »

ironically when ia asked the ds did they not have image enhancing software for cctv footage he stated no !

Someone has been watching a few too many films regarding image enhancing and also possibly needs to look up the word irony as unless I'm missing something then there is very little that is ironic with cops not having imaginary software.

Plasticman

Blacksheep1979 wrote: »

Someone has been watching a few too many films regarding image enhancing and also possibly needs to look up the word irony as unless I'm missing something then there is very little that is ironic with cops not having imaginary software.

Well, the did it on Mission Impossible - are you telling me that it isn't real?

Plasticman

lhd4 wrote: »

I worked in a mental health hospital, policy was to call the police for violent people or for assult etc.
A collegue of mine was held at knife point, it took 20 mins to get in touch with the police via 999andwhen they finnally answered they told us there was no way they could get out to us that day.

As all 999 calls are answered by BT and then transferred to your local police force, surely they wouldn't have let the call go on for 20 mins without an answer??? I would have expected them to transfer you to another force.

shaymenRup

Originally Posted by lhd4
I worked in a mental health hospital, policy was to call the police for violent people or for assult etc.
A collegue of mine was held at knife point, it took 20 mins to get in touch with the police via 999andwhen they finnally answered they told us there was no way they could get out to us that day.
****************************************************************

Sorry, but this could not have happened.

The 999 system could not operate like this or there would be carnage on our streets.

The more likely issue was that the incident was not reported properly (a large proportion of the problems that arise are as a result of this)

If someone is being held at knifepoint then tell that to the police.

Don't say someone's being really agressive and threatening.. don't waffle on about irrelevant information.

Think what do the emergency services need to know

Protection of life is their NUMBER 1 priority.

Any situation involving a potential life threatening situation would be dealt with as an emergency.

Exact location, persons involved, weapons involved, is anyone injured if so where - extent, and remain contactable the emergency services may want to contact you back. Don't then immediately ring your mate to discuss things (it happens!!!).

If the offender has left, the life threatening situation has ended unless of course serious injury has been caused or has been threatened again!

I_know_my_ABC_and_my_CMYK

KILL_BILL wrote: »

As i live in london i got a bike last year as its the easiet way to get arouind london

unfortunately i had it stolen - however the theft was caputured on cctv.

i reported it to the police - but did they want to know even though there was cctv footage _ NO

their attitude to people like myself is disgusting - they never contacted me and i had to chase after them to find out what was going on and wether they had bothered to look at the cctv.

cctv is cctv and if they had bothered to look at the cctv then an id of the culprits could have been obtained if nessecary by enhancing the images. but no they relied on a brief comment made by the porter of the building where the cctv was , hes an elderly chap and wears glasses.

i was annoyed at the theft but even more annoyed at the police's flippant attitude towards crime that occurs in london - it appears that irresoective of wether you have a bike nicked, assulted in a bar - like my freind was - or have you face slashed -llike the bloke peter woodham who face was slashed the police do nothing, the police - detective's particulary have nil interest.

The DS who was suppose to be dealing with the case was appaling and clearly they need to go on people skills course because he has no idea how to deal with victims. When i asked for the name of the DI and DCI he refused to provide the information and said ive got better things to do and put the phone down - DS sh*t.

rant over

Police complaints commission will sort this out for you.

wary

If you’re struggling to get the police to come out, you could always take a leaf out of George Phillips of Wigan’s book.

One recent evening, he saw that there were people in the shed stealing things. He phoned the police but was told that all patrols were busy. So he hung up, counted to 30, and phoned the police again.
‘Hello, I just called you a few seconds ago because there were people stealing things from my shed. Well, you don’t have to worry about them now because I’ve just shot them.’ Then he hung up.
Within five minutes three police cars, an Armed Response Unit, and an ambulance showed up at the Phillips’ residence and caught the burglars red-handed.
One of the Policemen said to George: ‘I thought you said that you’d shot them!’
George said, ‘I thought you said there was nobody available!’

I'm not entirely convinced that this news story is actually true, but it does illustrate a good point even if fictitious ...

Tozer

maninthestreet wrote: »

Can anyone save the police from themselves?
They are duty bound to investiagate all reports of crime.
We can't pick and choose what laws to obey, they can't pick and choose what laws to enforce - what part of that don't they understand, I wonder?

So how do you propose enforcing that duty?

Tozer

shaymenRup wrote: »

Originally Posted by lhd4
I worked in a mental health hospital, policy was to call the police for violent people or for assult etc.
A collegue of mine was held at knife point, it took 20 mins to get in touch with the police via 999andwhen they finnally answered they told us there was no way they could get out to us that day.
****************************************************************

Sorry, but this could not have happened.

The 999 system could not operate like this or there would be carnage on our streets.

The more likely issue was that the incident was not reported properly (a large proportion of the problems that arise are as a result of this)

If someone is being held at knifepoint then tell that to the police.

Don't say someone's being really agressive and threatening.. don't waffle on about irrelevant information.

Think what do the emergency services need to know

Protection of life is their NUMBER 1 priority.

Any situation involving a potential life threatening situation would be dealt with as an emergency.

Exact location, persons involved, weapons involved, is anyone injured if so where - extent, and remain contactable the emergency services may want to contact you back. Don't then immediately ring your mate to discuss things (it happens!!!).

If the offender has left, the life threatening situation has ended unless of course serious injury has been caused or has been threatened again!

Sorry but that isn't true in my experience. One of the very few times I have had to call 999 it kept on being "Number busy".