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Flippant Police

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  • Reggie_Rebel
    Reggie_Rebel Posts: 5,036 Forumite
    You want Plod round your house quick either tell them that the Burglars have got a gun (it doesn't matter if there are burglars there or not) or that you are sitting on the burglar and are prepared to whack him with a hammer until they arrive.
    It's taken me years of experience to get this cynical
  • lhd4
    lhd4 Posts: 71 Forumite
    You want Plod round your house quick either tell them that the Burglars have got a gun (it doesn't matter if there are burglars there or not) or that you are sitting on the burglar and are prepared to whack him with a hammer until they arrive.

    You should read my above post on response times of the police
    wondering what to do next......:undecided
  • KILL_BILL
    KILL_BILL Posts: 2,183 Forumite
    obtw another thing i had problems in trying to get into contact with the ds who was suppose to be dealing with my case but he was on a course

    i was going to suggest that the course he should defenitley go on is how to speak to victims of crime properly.

    anyhows i getting the ipcc involved as a matter of principle. its about time that they deslt with the victims in a professional mannner.
  • brightonman123
    brightonman123 Posts: 8,535 Forumite
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    i guess loads of bikes get stolen around London, not feasible to follow up each case.

    I have had 2 nicked where i ive in the past, though got a better bike each time from the insurance!
    Long time away from MSE, been dealing real life stuff..
    Sometimes seen lurking on the compers forum :-)
  • Optimist
    Optimist Posts: 4,557 Forumite
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    Can anyone save the police from themselves?
    They are duty bound to investiagate all reports of crime.
    We can't pick and choose what laws to obey, they can't pick and choose what laws to enforce - what part of that don't they understand, I wonder?

    Well actually they don't have to investigate, they tend to operate a screening policy they will take note of the complaint give out a crime number for insurance purposes then if it decided it is insolvable they close the case. boom boom
    "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."

    Bertrand Russell. British author, mathematician, & philosopher (1872 - 1970)
  • printedinuk
    printedinuk Posts: 29 Forumite
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    As a serving police officer I couldn't resist replying to this one (although I realise I may open myself up to severe criticism!).

    Firstly, I agree that for the police to have acted in that manner towards you then is unacceptable. Personally, if your complaint landed on my desk I would treat it very differently although that might be easier for me to say as my beat is probably rather quieter than the area in which you live, so I have the luxury (yes, I'm afraid it is often a luxury) of being able to give a little more time to minor investigations than my colleagues might be able to.

    In relation to your particular case, I would certainly encourage you to report such crimes, even if you think they are "going nowhere". Often a quick statement and the submission of a small intelligence report might help to apprehend the culprit for similar offences - whilst it might not help you personally it might be comfort to realise that you are contributing towards the eventual apprehension of the thief, indirectly. If your bike is identifiable it may even end up in it being returned to you if it is ever found (but don't hold your breath!).

    Also, as pointed out by another contributor, you will probably require at least an incident number if not a crime number to make a claim on your insurance, if you have any.

    Although not a cyclist, I recommend Morzov's advice re crime prevention.

    A quick note about CCTV: Again, I don't know if any steps were taken to check CCTV but you can't assume that the CCTV is of any use; without going into detail, it is not always possible for CCTV to be used.

    Whilst I sympathise with you I would point out that we, the police, are forced to prioritise calls and enquiries because we have our budgets and targets forced upon us. I'm not excusing poor service, I'm just explaining how things are at the moment...

    NB - the above are my own personal opinions and do not represent those of any organisation.
  • oldagetraveller
    oldagetraveller Posts: 3,653 Forumite
    or that you are sitting on the burglar and are prepared to whack him with a hammer until they arrive.

    No, that would delay them even further as they could potentially then arrest the burglary victim for assault and let the burglar off with a caution!
  • Blacksheep1979
    Blacksheep1979 Posts: 4,224 Forumite
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    KILL_BILL wrote: »
    obtw another thing i had problems in trying to get into contact with the ds who was suppose to be dealing with my case but he was on a course

    i was going to suggest that the course he should defenitley go on is how to speak to victims of crime properly.

    anyhows i getting the ipcc involved as a matter of principle. its about time that they deslt with the victims in a professional mannner.

    Oh well done - why don't you waste more police time and tax payers money. Yes it's a bit !!!!!! what happened but tbh a DS shouldn't even be dealing with bike theft it should be uniformed police.
  • markelock
    markelock Posts: 1,735 Forumite
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    I had my bike nicked, and actually found it for the police (a few shops down from the station, at the local pawn shop), they didn't attend, although a few days later I saw the officer in the Local bike shop buying bits for his own bike, also a few shops down from the station).

    I claimed on the insurance, then claimed the difference back from the Police, which they paid out, and wrote a letter apologising. In hindsight I would have claimed the full amount, but I was young and foolish...
    Remember the time he ate my goldfish? And you lied and said I never had goldfish. Then why did I have the bowl Bart? Why did I have the bowl?
  • amandada
    amandada Posts: 1,168 Forumite
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    lhd4 wrote: »
    I worked in a mental health hospital, policy was to call the police for violent people or for assult etc.
    A collegue of mine was held at knife point, it took 20 mins to get in touch with the police via 999andwhen they finnally answered they told us there was no way they could get out to us that day.

    Can I defend our force!!!
    I work as a police despatcher and often find myself phoning complainers if we've not had an officer attend within 2 hours-for really minor stuff like youths being noisy in the street...we ALWAYS attend.
    The only exceptions being if there is a major incident ongoing and it's something which really can wait till the next day, we will call a complainer and ask them if they mind deferring their call till the next day.

    Either our force is really good, or others are really bad-which is it?
    I'm horrified when I read some of the things people say about police responses
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