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PROLIANT

shadowdragon wrote: »

Who died and made u mod!!!!!



Ive put the bit you might find interesing in bold

Who said I was a mod like? This debate is like the last one on exactly the same subject with exactly the same invalid post's, what is the point?...there is no point because the complaint is that of controlling parents whom can't comprehend that Visa is a payment method, let it go and answer the question, what is the problem with a child having a debit card? Getting tired of repeating my self but nobody has come back with a valid answer yet.
:rolleyes:

shadowdragon

Im talking about my point you quoted, Visa used to be tied to a CREDIT CARD and therefore you had to be 18 to aquire one, this meant if companies only accepted CREDIT CARDS (most popular is hmmm....VISA) it was a way of checking the purchaser was not a minor (purchasing !!!!!!, achohol, cigarettes ect ect ect)

No end of debate, no trolling no bashing other members, just stating an opinion based on my experiences.

PROLIANT

shadowdragon wrote: »

Im talking about my point you quoted, Visa used to be tied to a CREDIT CARD and therefore you had to be 18 to aquire one, this meant if companies only accepted CREDIT CARDS (most popular is hmmm....VISA) it was a way of checking the purchaser was not a minor (purchasing !!!!!!, achohol, cigarettes ect ect ect)

No end of debate, no trolling no bashing other members, just stating an opinion based on my experiences.

Fair comment but that was back then and the UK banking system has changed (thankfully) which allows people from all walks of life to have the facilities that are today considered "normal" ergo a debit card, Visa is not legally allowed to be used as proof of age and neither is any other form of payment, know this from my days in sales and retail, only valid government approved ID cards, I will feel more confident that my two boys will be carrying plastic money with embedded security rather than being an easy target with cash in their pockets for scum bags, tea leafs and bullies.

ShelfStacker_3

When I saw this front page, I had to clench my fists so hard my knuckles popped out and shattered against the walls.

It's typical Daily Mail bullsh*t: "Here is something, and here is an extremely undesirable but extremely unlikely consequence of it which we're going to present as the only consequence." In this event, the "something" is a debit card and the consequence is buying fags, booze and !!!!!! over the Internet.

Frankly, I have limited sympathy for Lloyds TSB, but I can't disagree with their spokesman when they said that they're not there to nanny their customers - I would go further and say that if your 15 year old son is buying porno films and cigarettes over the Internet, the problem is not related to debit cards.

Even excepting that, there have been ways for kids to buy such things for ages; my Visa Electron worked on most websites (Valve's Steam being the main one that springs to mind) as if it was just a plain Visa when I was 17 and my Solo card was gladly accepted when I wanted to buy an 18-rated DVD (not pornographic, I hasten to add - and it was Brass Eye, so that absolves me twice over, I hope) when I was 16. Let's not even get into the existence of prepaid MasterCards which can be used by absolutely anyone.

I don't, also, believe that parents should have to be asked if they'd like to allow their child a debit card. Most of them will use it in supermarkets or corner shops to buy sweets and Coke, for god's sake - the inference that the moment someone has a Visa Debit in their hands they go on a !!!!!! binge is entirely that of the Daily Mail, and of course some of the reactionary f*ckwipes it has for readers. And I repeat; if your kid does sign up for a BangBros account and buy lots of fags and booze the moment they've got a card, then it's not the fault of the card. The guy in the article appears to be trying to deflect blame for allowing his son to do all this (let's not even get into bringing him up so that he does buy all this crap) onto Lloyds, which is entirely unfair.

It's just stupid scaremongering toss, not unlike virtually anything the Mail prints on pretty much any subject it can get its hands on.

shadowdragon wrote: »

Im talking about my point you quoted, Visa used to be tied to a CREDIT CARD and therefore you had to be 18 to aquire one, this meant if companies only accepted CREDIT CARDS (most popular is hmmm....VISA) it was a way of checking the purchaser was not a minor (purchasing !!!!!!, achohol, cigarettes ect ect ect)

It's a very bad age verification system, even without the existence of debit cards, simply because anyone anywhere could go and borrow someone else's credit card... this is the main reason most retailers can't use them as a form of ID (will admit that First Great Western seemed OK with taking my Lloyds Visa Debit as ID a while back...)

shadowdragon

PROLIANT wrote: »

Fair comment but that was back then and the UK banking system has changed (thankfully) which allows people from all walks of life to have the facilities that are today considered "normal" ergo a debit card, Visa is not legally allowed to be used as proof of age and neither is any other form of payment, know this from my days in sales and retail, only valid government approved ID cards, I will feel more confident that my two boys will be carrying plastic money with embedded security rather than being an easy target with cash in their pockets for scum bags, tea leafs and bullies.

I agree its a lot better, im not disagreeing with the system one bit, its a good idea, like the phone cards were back in the 80s, but there again I think Mobile telephones are a great thing for kids to have too,

Problem is instead of beating you up for your lunch money they will be beating you up for your pin number!!!!!

shadowdragon

ShelfStacker wrote: »

the inference that the moment someone has a Visa Debit in their hands they go on a !!!!!! binge.

That made me :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

ShelfStacker_3

It's true though. I mean, have you ever tried to enter a credit card number, with address verification and CVV2 code with only one hand? Pain in the !!!!.

shadowdragon

ShelfStacker wrote: »

It's true though. I mean, have you ever tried to enter a credit card number, with address verification and CVV2 code with only one hand? Pain in the !!!!.

no but my mate used to let his big toe nail grow so he could reach the control buttons on the VCR before remotes came along :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:(and thats true)