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help!!! unreasonable management company???
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Has your lease got a no noise after 11 p.m. clause?
If your terrace was below my flat I may get the hose out and start watering the pots on my balcony.:D
P.S. I have friends who complain about neighbours smoking on balconies as the smoke drifts into their flats.0 -
Doozergirl wrote: »They can't do anything except write letters. I can't see them managing to get you turfed out of your home for having a bit of a party!
Actually you can be served a notice under section 146 of the Law of Property Act 1925. This means you have to remedy the situation, pay compensation and in the worse cases they can turf you out.I'm not cynical I'm realistic
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SouthCoast wrote: »Has your lease got a no noise after 11 p.m. clause?
If your terrace was below my flat I may get the hose out and start watering the pots on my balcony.:D
And if you have a 11pm clause the neighbours can complain to Environmental Health as well.I'm not cynical I'm realistic
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yes no bbq at all and no pets unless with written permission from the freeholder. Specific clauses. You have to read the leases very very carefully. We are lucky though as we got a designated bbq area in the grounds and we also have a good residents assoc who would tackle any anti-social occupier, although all the owners are considerate, as are most of the renters and the ambience of the place depends on people interacting in a neighbourly way.
Op I would tread with the utmost caution re the bbq as I would not want to get off on the wrong foot with neighbours. Do the cooking indoors and bring it out0 -
We live in a first floor flat and our neighbours downstairs have a small garden. It was obvious when we viewed the flat that should our neighbour actually use their garden for normal garden activities (entertaining friends, having a BBQ, sitting in the garden talking) then if we have the windows open we will be able to hear them, however as we chose to live in this flat anyway we don't feel that we have any right to complain about them using their garden.Your in close proximity of many other people and smoke blows in all directions thus causing problems with others..your probably having a bbq because it nice weather thus everyone has windows open...you can't when being smoked out.
Obviously if they were regularly having loud parties into the small hours this would be a different matter, but the living in close proximity to other people thing works both ways: people should make an effort not to disturb their neighbours, but equally their neighbours should make allowances for special occasions and and respect their right to have the occasional party etc...
We wouldn't dream of telling our neighbours downstairs that they can't use their own garden fully, and in the 3 years of living here I can honestly say that we have never been "smoked out" by their BBQ.
I think sometimes people are envious of other people, and their way of coping with this is to ban others from doing those things that they are envious of. Besides, a BBQ shouldn't smoke so much that it is a problem! OP I would go ahead with your house-warming BBQ, but I'd also invite the neighbours to join you: it could be a good way of meeting and building a good relationship with them.0 -
Actually you can be served a notice under section 146 of the Law of Property Act 1925. This means you have to remedy the situation, pay compensation and in the worse cases they can turf you out.
Um.. you are getting me concerned. So if we do have a bbq but don't cause a fire or any problems but someone complains, what sort of remedies are you talking abt?And if you have a 11pm clause the neighbours can complain to Environmental Health as well.
We don't have a 11pm clause (as far as I know but not sure if I am reading an abbreviated version as this was prepared by my solicitor). BUT we wouldn't have a party after 11pm as that would be too inconsiderate. The latest a party has gone was for abt 10pm and it started winding down by 9pm. No loud music either just human chatter.0 -
OP I assume you are leasehold. In that case the freeholder owns the property and grounds and insures the whole block as one. He makes the rules via the lease and the rules have to be kept. If the lease is broken in any way then the freeholder does have a legal right to evict you from his property. You have bought the right to live there for x years
If your bbq were to start a fire then you would be guilty of a criminal act. Tbh it really is not worth the risk as it may very well nullify the buildings insurance of the whole block
ps: the management company is employed by the freeholder and acts for the freeholder0 -
Common Sense, most flats no matter how large in Square Footage (my flat is one of the biggest I have seen in my area) it is not a good environment to keep any animals that need to roam. I have seen 1 neighbour with a cat on the 3rd floor :rolleyes: DOH!!
Not necessarily a problem. House cats who never go out can be perfectly happy....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
If the lease is broken in any way then the freeholder does have a legal right to evict you from his property.
If your bbq were to start a fire then you would be guilty of a criminal act.
Woah there! Overkill!
The freeholder can't just evict someone for breaching the lease (long-term lease). Forfeiture of a lease is a long, difficult, expensive, and unlikely procedure. Esp. if the "no barbeque" thing isn't actually in the lease.
If the barbeque were to start a fire, you can't just say "would be guilty of a criminal act", it's not that cut and dried. If anyone starts a fire through negligence, it might well be criminal damage caused recklessly, but that has nothign to do with flats / leases / etc...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
so according to neverdespairgirl it is worth taking the chance OP.
Well not in my book but then again what do I know about the property you live in, I can only speak for our lease and our 45 neighbours and after 3 years here I can honestly say that we have harmony because we have an `unspoken` etiquette` lease or not0
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