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    • spinningsheep
    • By spinningsheep 19th Jan 13, 4:34 PM
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    Economy Energy, who are they?
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    • 19th Jan 13, 4:34 PM
    Economy Energy, who are they? 19th Jan 13 at 4:34 PM
    Who are these people? Never heard of them, had a rep stop me in the street a few days back and I gather they only offer prepay and the rep told me THEY supply the energy, nobody is behind them like Sainsburys Energy and BG for eg, but their website seems vague!

    http://www.economyenergy.co.uk/index.html
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    • Joyful
    • By Joyful 19th Jan 13, 5:30 PM
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    • 19th Jan 13, 5:30 PM
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    • 19th Jan 13, 5:30 PM
    One of the points they make is no charge for emergency credit on prepay meters. As far as I am aware no companies make a charge for this so their selling tactics seem iffy. It also looks like the only tariff is a fixed for 12 month one.
    I am an employee of British Gas.The views expressed on this post are mine and do not necessarily reflect the views of Centrica, its subsidiaries or affiliated companies.
    • chris1973
    • By chris1973 19th Jan 13, 8:33 PM
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    • 19th Jan 13, 8:33 PM
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    • 19th Jan 13, 8:33 PM
    Well its about time somebody did something to offer better tariffs for prepayment customers, over the standard tariffs offered by others, so I hope that they will succeed in their business, even if it is relatively new.

    After all, if they do find a way of offering a deal more in line with the discounted DD tariffs offered to credit meter customers then good luck to them, i'm sure they'll lure quite a few prepayment customers away from the big boys

    That said its a bit of a concern that they appear to be a non trading individual with Nominet and have withheld their address details on their domain registration. Sounds like a bit of a bedroom based business operator in that respect.

    I also can't find any listing for them on Duedil, which may just be down to how long they have been operating.
    Last edited by chris1973; 19-01-2013 at 8:36 PM.
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  • mallenmeuk
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    • 2nd Feb 13, 1:17 PM
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    • 2nd Feb 13, 1:17 PM
    All I can say is be careful if you are thinking of using economyenergy.co.uk

    I have inherited this company as a supplier for my electricity after moving house in early December 2012 and ever since then I have been trying to switch my supply to my prefered supplier however FOUR TIMES now economyenergy.co.uk have cancelled my transfer at the last minute.

    In my many telephone conversations with this company I have been given a range of excuses for the cancelled transfer ranging from "an ex employee not knowing what she was doing" to a "signed contract with a previous unconnected resident at my address!" Despite reassurances that all will go through on the next occasion they declined my switch again only yesterday.... What concerns me the most was a conversation which I had with the Ombudsman Services last week - economyenergy.co.uk are NOT subscribed to their complaints scheme so they are unable to assist with my issue.

    To summarise I would advise anyone to avoid this company at all costs!
    • dogshome
    • By dogshome 2nd Feb 13, 2:27 PM
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    • 2nd Feb 13, 2:27 PM
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    • 2nd Feb 13, 2:27 PM
    Thank you mallenmeuk
    Like most of the regulars on this site, I was concerned when Consumer Focus bailed out, (or was pushed out), of it's role for handling Gas/Elec customer Complaints in December 2012, with the Baton being passed over to the Citizens Advice Bureau.

    This left just 2 avenues for Complaints - 1) The CAB, who though a worthy organsation, do not have the staffing, experience and most importantly the legal remit to pursue and fine Suppliers, and 2) The Ombudsman, whom we now know won't care a monkeys if a Complainants supplier is not a subscribeing member, even if that supplier broke into a household and kidnapped it's children in order to get paid, for what later transpires to be a 'Phantom' debt
    Last edited by dogshome; 02-02-2013 at 2:41 PM.
  • Wywth
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    • 2nd Feb 13, 4:55 PM
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    • 2nd Feb 13, 4:55 PM
    All I can say is be careful if you are thinking of using economyenergy.co.uk

    I have inherited this company as a supplier for my electricity after moving house in early December 2012 and ever since then I have been trying to switch my supply to my prefered supplier however FOUR TIMES now economyenergy.co.uk have cancelled my transfer at the last minute.

    In my many telephone conversations with this company I have been given a range of excuses for the cancelled transfer ranging from "an ex employee not knowing what she was doing" to a "signed contract with a previous unconnected resident at my address!" Despite reassurances that all will go through on the next occasion they declined my switch again only yesterday.... What concerns me the most was a conversation which I had with the Ombudsman Services last week - economyenergy.co.uk are NOT subscribed to their complaints scheme so they are unable to assist with my issue.

    To summarise I would advise anyone to avoid this company at all costs!
    Originally posted by mallenmeuk
    A member of the ombudsman scheme or not, they are still subject to contractual law.

    Seek legal advice now. They already appear to have admitted breaching the contract when they agreed "an ex employee not knowing what she was doing"

    Btw, I can't see their tariff details on their website. What are they please? They do say they only have one, and as a customer, I'm sure you could enlighten us
    Last edited by Wywth; 02-02-2013 at 4:57 PM.
  • Wywth
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    • 2nd Feb 13, 5:03 PM
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    • 2nd Feb 13, 5:03 PM
    Who are these people? Never heard of them, had a rep stop me in the street a few days back and I gather they only offer prepay and the rep told me THEY supply the energy, nobody is behind them like Sainsburys Energy and BG for eg, but their website seems vague!

    http://www.economyenergy.co.uk/index.html
    Originally posted by spinningsheep
    They are a relatively new energy supplier it would appear.

    They were granted supply licences on 19 May 2011 under their original name, Power Assured Limited.

    http://www.ofgem.gov.uk/Licensing/Work/Notices/Licences/Documents1/Power%20Assured%20Limited%20grant%20elec%20supp%20 lic.pdf

    http://www.ofgem.gov.uk/Licensing/Work/Notices/Licences/Documents1/Power%20Assured%20Limited%20grant%20gas%20supp%20l ic.pdf

    I agree, their website is indeed very vague. It says they only have one traiff, but oddly don't appear to sya what it is and admit you won't find them on any comparison site.

    Hopefully mallenmeuk will enlighten us further as to their tariff

    Edit: Their terms and conditions imply they supply credit metered customers as well as PPM customers.
    I presume they charge everyone the same price , irrespective of meter type, a bit like Ebico do.
    Last edited by Wywth; 02-02-2013 at 5:18 PM.
    • Richie-from-the-Boro
    • By Richie-from-the-Boro 2nd Feb 13, 9:09 PM
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    • 2nd Feb 13, 9:09 PM
    Their company address puts them smack in the middle of an airport.
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  • mallenmeuk
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    • 3rd Feb 13, 10:07 AM
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    • 3rd Feb 13, 10:07 AM
    Sorry Folks no can do.

    When I took responsibility for the supply there was no discussion regarding their cost per unit, or for that matter any reference to a minimum contract period. All that was requested was my name to take responsibility for the supply. (Just for reference I'm a Pay as you go customer)

    I've had no paperwork, welcome pack or anything else from these Guys...
    Last edited by mallenmeuk; 03-02-2013 at 10:10 AM. Reason: Adding additional information to help clarify my response.
  • Wywth
    Sorry Folks no can do.

    When I took responsibility for the supply there was no discussion regarding their cost per unit, or for that matter any reference to a minimum contract period. All that was requested was my name to take responsibility for the supply. (Just for reference I'm a Pay as you go customer)

    I've had no paperwork, welcome pack or anything else from these Guys...
    Originally posted by mallenmeuk
    How did I know you wouldn't be able to give us details of their pricing?

    You should be able to see the unit price on their statement, or in the absence of one of these, I think the unit price is available directly from the PPM

    Why do you want to change supplier if you don't even know how much they are charging you???
    They may be cheaper than anyone else? As you won't find them on any comparison site (according to their website), you'll need their price to make any comparison to any other supplier.
  • Wywth
    Their company address puts them smack in the middle of an airport.
    Originally posted by Richie-from-the-Boro
    You obviously have never been to Coventry Airport - there is indeed a large business park there
    Last edited by Wywth; 03-02-2013 at 1:09 PM.
    • Richie-from-the-Boro
    • By Richie-from-the-Boro 3rd Feb 13, 1:20 PM
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    You obviously have never been to Coventry Airport - there is indeed a large business park there
    Originally posted by Wywth
    - I haven't
    - Coventry & Brum don't talk - they 'sing' words and sentences !
    - there's one under the Man-U ground, been there - done that
    - didn't suggest anything sinister
    - simply pointed to where

    I'm all for competition [TEXT DELETED BY FORUM TEAM].
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  • Wywth
    [QUOTE=Richie-from-the-Boro;59097427]...[TEXT DELETED BY FORUM TEAM]

    If, as the OP suggest, they only supply PPM customers, they won't need any bank details.

    But like the OP, I would prefer to get more information on this supplier than cast judgement in ignorance.
    Last edited by MSE Investigator; 08-05-2014 at 1:24 PM.
    • Richie-from-the-Boro
    • By Richie-from-the-Boro 3rd Feb 13, 2:51 PM
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    If, as the OP suggest, they only supply PPM customers, they won't need any bank details.

    But like the OP, I would prefer to get more information on this supplier than cast judgement in ignorance.
    Originally posted by Wywth
    - if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, that's not ignorance, that's playing safe
    - they offer nothing that others who are already national regulated names offer
    - I'm too risk averse ? - damn right I am
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  • Wywth
    - if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, that's not ignorance, that's playing safe
    - they offer nothing that others who are already national regulated names offer
    - I'm too risk averse ? - damn right I am
    Originally posted by Richie-from-the-Boro
    I don't know how it walks or quacks yet

    As you seem to know what the supplier offers, how much do they charge please? Afterall, all gas and electricity suppliers offer the same thing. The only difference is billing & customer service.
    • Richie-from-the-Boro
    • By Richie-from-the-Boro 3rd Feb 13, 6:51 PM
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    I don't know how it walks or quacks yet

    As you seem to know what the supplier offers, how much do they charge please? After all, all gas and electricity suppliers offer the same thing. The only difference is billing & customer service.
    Originally posted by Wywth
    - no idea, and there's the nub of it
    - no one does, their site is a secret
    - that's why it walks or quacks

    They are offering pricing at less than the big 6, based on 4.13 :

    The 12 month rolling tracker contract guarantees that the annual energy prices you pay will always be cheaper than the annual average standard energy prices of the `big 6.’ (Based on standard tariffs and using Ofgem’s published average annual consumption figures of 3300kWh electricity and 16500kWh gas).

    - however as stated, they offer nothing that others who are already national regulated names offer
    - a no-mark company, no one ever heard of
    - an iffy website and iffy registration
    - trawling for leads by accosting people in the street
    - I wouldn't want them to have my home address, let alone my energy account
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  • mallenmeuk
    Why do you want to change supplier if you don't even know how much they are charging you???
    Originally posted by Wywth

    Simples..... I want both my gas and electricity with the same supplier which is one of the big 6.

    Yes it will no doubt cost me a bit more but at the same time my prefered supplier offers far more support and back up when things go wrong!
  • glook2000
    need more confirmation
    just had a visit from one of their reps - seemed to know what he was talking about. took my details , after confirming i could opt out and not use their prepayment key i stupidly signed . The rep then tore off a slip with my signature on it and didn't even leave me a copy of the duplicate contract .

    I thought this aint right - what am i signing for ? i had to chase the rep down the road and get him to rip up the contract ( give me the pieces )

    They do appear on the 'companies in the uk' website - the google maps street view shows a forlorn incomplete trading estate but that could be the age of the street view rendering

    If they are legit - their mistake is not leaving a signed copy with customer . I usually ask reps to leave some details and i'll contact them if im interested - hopefully this will be my last lapse of focus !!

    Has anyone else had dealings with economy energy ?
    • Richie-from-the-Boro
    • By Richie-from-the-Boro 15th May 13, 12:52 PM
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    just had a visit from one of their reps - seemed to know what he was talking about. took my details , after confirming i could opt out and not use their prepayment key i stupidly signed . The rep then tore off a slip with my signature on it and didn't even leave me a copy of the duplicate contract .

    I thought this aint right - what am i signing for ? i had to chase the rep down the road and get him to rip up the contract ( give me the pieces )

    They do appear on the 'companies in the uk' website - the google maps street view shows a forlorn incomplete trading estate but that could be the age of the street view rendering

    If they are legit - their mistake is not leaving a signed copy with customer . I usually ask reps to leave some details and i'll contact them if im interested - hopefully this will be my last lapse of focus !!

    Has anyone else had dealings with economy energy ?
    Originally posted by glook2000
    Thanks for the feedback glook2000, first person actual 'real' experiences are the most valuable lessons, we as consumers, can learn from.
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  • NowRetired
    i had to chase the rep down the road and get him to rip up the contract ( give me the pieces )
    How do you know it was your contract that he ripped up?
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