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Should I pay..Civil Enforcement Ltd?
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Old 29-10-2008, 4:22 PM
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I got a ticket in this morning from Civil Enforcement Ltd saying I had a parking charge of 40 (if paid within 14 days or 70 after that!!) They say I was parked over the allowed time (3 hours) and they had photographic proof but I had to pay 10 to get it??
I live in Scotland and this company is in Liverpool. I was parked at the Rivergate retail park in Irvine Scotland for no more that 2 1/2 hours, Im positive of this as I had to be back to get the kids form school. Im worried about appealing incase it goes over the 14 days then the amount goes up.
Is a Civil charge the same as Law enforcement, what will happen if I dont pay it.
I dont have a spare 10 for the pic let a lone 40. any advice is apreciated.
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Old 29-10-2008, 4:27 PM
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A civil charge is a civil matter for the county courts (not a criminal one for the magistrates courts).

Ignore the letter completely, don't respond or appeal.

For definitive advice go to the pepipoo site.
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Old 29-10-2008, 4:35 PM
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na, send em nothing
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Old 29-10-2008, 4:55 PM
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How do they have your details?
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Old 29-10-2008, 5:00 PM
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How do they have your details?
I take it they have gone through the DVLA, I didnt think this was allowed?
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Old 29-10-2008, 5:04 PM
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i also believe that you can argue that the "contract" agreed to by parking is between them and the driver. The driver is not necessarily the owner.
That being the case, you can instruct them to prove who was the driver and provide all of their details to confirm they know who the driver is. They'll obviously be unable to do this and the case then falls apart.

But as someone said, try pepipoo for further info.

Incidentally, i'd send them nothing.

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We've just had a similar ticket relating to parking at Kinnaird Park, Edinburgh.

We've decided to ignore it and see what happens, similar to the rest of the advice above.
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Old 30-10-2008, 11:08 AM
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You need to stare them out - their letters become more and more threatening. Just bin them.
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You need to stare them out - their letters become more and more threatening. Just bin them.
With ever more bold print and EVEN on different coloured paper.

I personally wouldn't bin them, though. Keep them somewhere safe.

Just be happy that you have cost them 2.50 to get your details from the DVLA (which they are allowed to do - the DVLA will release them to anyone who has cause to request them).
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i would actually suggest a different approach. Go on websites where they deal with things like this all the time. they will give u templates of letters to send off which is the best thing to do.

I got one of these i ignored it and i am now passed down to newlyn or something a baliff company who havent tried anything but send me letters. I got 2 so far in the last year. I am going to write them a couple of letters if i get another letter but its not a good fealing being passed down to a baliff company.
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If you don't acknowledge them in any way they cannot hassle you personally. The bailiff companies are usually all part of the same operation, and won't be court appointed bailiffs.
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The advice on Pepipoo is to not reply to any of them.
Oh dear.
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We've just had a similar ticket relating to parking at Kinnaird Park, Edinburgh.

We've decided to ignore it and see what happens, similar to the rest of the advice above.
hi beancounter, is it the same company as this one Civil enforcement ltd? Im taking all the advice and going to ignore it, i just wish i could find someone who has dealt with them. My boyfriend has had several 'tickets' from parking at the Parkhead Forge while the footies on, his mates a top policeman and told him to never send them anything, hes never had any follow ups from them. but again it was a Glasgow firm.
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If you look on pepipoo, you will find some discussions about Civil Enforcement.
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hi beancounter, is it the same company as this one Civil enforcement ltd? Im taking all the advice and going to ignore it, i just wish i could find someone who has dealt with them. My boyfriend has had several 'tickets' from parking at the Parkhead Forge while the footies on, his mates a top policeman and told him to never send them anything, hes never had any follow ups from them. but again it was a Glasgow firm.
Ah well, at least clamping is illegal in Bonnie Scotland so they can't try that one for a repeat offender.
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hi beancounter, is it the same company as this one Civil enforcement ltd?
It is not the same company (can't remember the name, though!)
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i would actually suggest a different approach. Go on websites where they deal with things like this all the time. they will give u templates of letters to send off which is the best thing to do.

I got one of these i ignored it and i am now passed down to newlyn or something a baliff company who havent tried anything but send me letters. I got 2 so far in the last year. I am going to write them a couple of letters if i get another letter but its not a good fealing being passed down to a baliff company.
I'd like to see a bailiff try operating lawfully without a court order.
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They have not once gone to court over this, they threaten but it is big on pepipoo and this company is a joke
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I too got a parking ticket from Irvine Multi Storey car park today. I have read all the forums saying you should not pay. I would love to hear the outcome of your ticket, nic2075

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Hi Nic - just was wondering what happened with this (if anything?)

I've had an identical letter from these people today. I'm going to file it and see what happens, just wondered how you got on with it?
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