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Old 17-07-2007, 7:08 PM   #1
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Default The Great "Self Discipline" Hunt

What's it all about?

Learning to spend within your budget is an important part of life, whether you're in debt or just trying to avoid it. Yet that doesn't make it easy or fun most of the time.

So, this week I'd like your top tips on controlling your spending. When there's something you really want, but you know you shouldn't buy, what do you do to keep the urge at bay?

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As I often write I have two MoneySaving mantras that you should say to yourself before buying it. Which one to use depends on whether you're skint or not.

IF YOU'RE SKINT

Do I need it?
Can I afford it?
Can I find it cheaper anywhere else

IF YOU'RE NOT SKINT

Will I use it?
Is it worth it?
Can I find it cheaper anywhere else?





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Old 17-07-2007, 7:11 PM   #2
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Is it 1: Useful or 2: Beautiful?



Debt: 16/04/2007:Principality mortgage £77324.10@ 5.29% £44080.39 Mum loan£11540.00£11230 @ 0% Savings£2912.60 £2800 TOTAL DEBT £92727.75 £58110.39 £34617.36 repaid 80.5% of £43000 target.
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Old 17-07-2007, 7:13 PM   #3
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I have stopped having the ability to pay - leave all debit/credit cards at home. Only take the cash you absolutely need with you and don't have a cash card with you to take extra out of the hole in the wall. That way, however tempted you are, you have to walk away in the end.



All singing all dancing amount owing - 1.11.09 £197,273.17....currently £196,580.44........ MF/DFD December 2023
Mortgage/secured: £185,049.27 Unsecured: £11,531.17 "original" sig: £21,578.44
November NSD 3 £10 a day £390.18/£300 Pay off £20k by Xmas 09 - £19156.82
Put off until tomorrow that which won't advance your life plan by being done today.
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Old 17-07-2007, 7:15 PM   #4
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One good tip regarding a potential purchase, work out how long you'd have to work to pay for the purchase.

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Old 17-07-2007, 7:21 PM   #5
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Don't go to the shops.
Window shopping is dangerous and must be stopped! Avoid temptation!
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Old 17-07-2007, 7:24 PM   #6
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If am being totally honest I still apply a technique that is a bit of a hangover from my student days...Is it in the sale?...If yes then I will probably buy it if it is reduced enough for my liking....if no, then I wait for it to be in the sale!!!
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Old 17-07-2007, 7:28 PM   #7
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Focus, focus, focus on what you are trying to pay off or save for. Your purchase will seem less tempting when compared against what you REALLY want!
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Old 17-07-2007, 7:37 PM   #8
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We - partner, son & myself - really love celebrating birthdays and Christmas with lots of 'little' presents wrapped individually as surprises. But by the time we'd trailed round the shops buying loads of stuff over a period of time, we used to find piles of stuff in the cupboard that we'd forgotten we'd bought. And most of it was tat anyway. So now we have a 'wish box' each. Throughout the year, we write down things we want and put it in the box as and when (eg book review from a magazine). Sometimes very specific and sometimes more general. Then two or three weeks before the birthday, or mid_nov for Xmas, we open the relevant wish box and see what's listed. (To keep the element of surprise, we don't look at our own wishes, and we are allowed to put wishes in other people's boxes). Then we get a selection of the items on the list according to what's available and the budget. We also can get ideas for freebies - last year one of son's suggestions for himself was a day without any household chores! It's great because:
a) we can ban son from talking about his birthday (has to be in his box) until mid Oct - not until Nov but wants to talk about it daily from about Easter
b) my memory is really bad so it's always a surprise because I'd forgotten about it
c) if you change you mind, just write in another note saying 'I don't want xxx after all'


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Old 17-07-2007, 8:03 PM   #9
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Now, I also:
a) aim to go supermarket shopping just once a month (I used to go Fridays after work so always spontaneously bought alcohol and Tesco Finest because I deserved it, and a book because at their prices it was better value than a magazine!). Buy just bread and milk in between. Working so far but only our second month
b) set a budget, take a calculator and add it up as I go along. Yes I am that sad!
Used to spend £100 a week. Now approx £120 a month + extra bread/milk, but will adjust this as we get used to this process. This alone has had the biggest impact on my spending for years and years.
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Old 17-07-2007, 8:06 PM   #10
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The snowball calculator at www.whatsthecost.com has a "treats" calculator. If you put the amount of the treat you want in the calculator, it will tell you how much extra it is going to cost you in interest payments by not using that money to pay off your debts instead!!

Makes you think twice about spending!




All singing all dancing amount owing - 1.11.09 £197,273.17....currently £196,580.44........ MF/DFD December 2023
Mortgage/secured: £185,049.27 Unsecured: £11,531.17 "original" sig: £21,578.44
November NSD 3 £10 a day £390.18/£300 Pay off £20k by Xmas 09 - £19156.82
Put off until tomorrow that which won't advance your life plan by being done today.

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Old 17-07-2007, 8:11 PM   #11
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Everytime i open my wallet i have a list of my debts listed next to the money compartment. Once i see how much i owe, the wallet is swiftly shut!
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Old 17-07-2007, 8:21 PM   #12
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I sleep on it. If I still want it, I get it. But I do find I have managed to talk myself out of most things by the next day.



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Old 17-07-2007, 8:33 PM   #13
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My tip is simple - Join in the PaP/Moozie 'What will you spend today and weekly spends challenge'.
For me it has been one of the major factors in limiting my daily spends, since I know I'll have to account to the whole forum for any overspends.
That's all the discipline I need.



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Old 17-07-2007, 9:22 PM   #14
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I focus on my end goal - moving away from my awful neighbours! no amount of pretty clothes or cds would mean as much as being able to sell up and move somewhere better but given my debts at the mo a bigger mortgage would be mad (and probably unavailable)!



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Old 17-07-2007, 9:30 PM   #15
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If I see something in a shop then I walk away and go back several days later to see if I really want it - give myself several days to ponder on the potential purchase and whether it is absolute necessary - I use this technique particularly when thinking about shoes and handbags.



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Old 17-07-2007, 9:31 PM   #16
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1) Leave the cards at home
2) Only keep an emergency tenner in your pocket for real emergencies
3) Concentrate on something you really like - my example would be diving holidays(!) When I want a big pressie, I actually measure it by what I wouldn't be able to afford - so think "well, that is equivalent to a days diving in Red Sea" or "My goodness, I have saved £20 per month on insurance that's half a diving holiday over a year"!
4) As well as Martin's points about buying generally, I would add "and can I get points or discount?"
5) Don't change your pin numbers to numbers you will remember!



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Old 17-07-2007, 9:44 PM   #17
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Red face my bad habit actually did me favors

i remember when i was about 21 i spent sooooooo much money and was always sooooo overdrawn or ended up with suchhhhh a small amount of money at the end of the month that eventually i was too scared to look at my balance.

i got to the point where i was used to being totally skint, and even on payday told myself i was still skint.

Anyway i did this for about 3 years out of habit - never opened bank statements, never looked at my balance, made my tenners last as long as possible, and just acted poor. Anyway i had no choice but to check my balance one day as i changed banks..... and had AMASSED £2100 in savings that i just was NOT expecting to be there . I was well pleased. Even now i hate looking at my bank balance, i roughly know how much i have free to soend each month after bills, but that little bit of paranoia has helped me spend less.

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Old 17-07-2007, 9:48 PM   #18
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Because I see clothes as something to keep me warm/dry, I don't buy them very often. Indeed this has been an expensive year as several pairs of trousers gave up the ghost at the same time !

But because I don't buy often I tend to buy things that don't date, ie classic cut things that can be worn any year (well I think so anyway!). Keeping up with fashion is a mugs game. I also rarely buy clothes full price, it is either in the sale, off ebay or a charity shopt.

Perhaps my biggest tip is DON'T BE PROUD. Ie
New baby? Being offered lots of clothes - big smile and think how many £100's you just saved.
Sofa packed up. Get one off freecycle - big smile and think that another x £'s towards my debt.

That sort of thing. People seem to have this obsession with having things new, which often means on credit and at full price. There is no concept of delayed gratification now, ie wait to see if it gets reduced and THEN buy.

Sorry turned into a bit of an essay, I'll get my coat.....(just bought a new coat, but my last one lasted me 20 years !)
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Old 17-07-2007, 9:48 PM   #19
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oh yeah and another one that i do is only buy stuff on ebay using my paypal account with stuff i have also sold, so its like my own stash of cash for pressies for myself and luxuries that dont hit the "real world" money from my pay slip. I dont feel so bad treating myself then. Its amazing how much cash i make on ebay through some real tat, a watch i only wore once is £44 with 3 days to go! Vinyl records, clothes, old phones, CD's, books, go through the shed and garage for tools, its amazing...

..and the final tip for ebay is to use the auctionsniper site, since using that i am definitely geting items cheaper.
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Before buying anything I ask myself do I REALLY need the item. If I don't then I don't buy it. This is except for holidays which I can afford by not spending money on things I think I would like.
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