Bailiffs Forcing Entry and Using Restraint - Please Read, Important - Deadline

icefall · 15 February 2007 at 4:20AM

Peter Bards is in talks with representatives from the House of Lords about a petition showing support for amendments to a bill that allows bailiffs in certain cases to force entry to collect on a debt - even if you are not there. If you are there, and try to stop them, you yourself will be forcibly restrained. If the phrase 'An Englishman's home is his castle' has ever meant anything to you, please take the time to sign this petition or mail the Lords and Baroness in question to show your support for the amendments needed to remove this bailiff carte-blanche.

I saw this on the consumeraction group website and it did not sound good to me , don't know if anyone on here has heard about this. Here is the link to the thread

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general-consumer-issues/64566-bailiffs-forcing-entry-using.html

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bailiffs/61524-baliff-petition-stop-them.html

I was not sure where to post this, mods please move if its in the wrong place.

icefall · 15 February 2007 at 12:10PM

The petition to sign is here

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/simonthesmoothy/CAG/petition.htm

Sign it, then scan it and email to peterbard or snailmail it to the address on the document.

Peter.bardley@btinternet. com

or

Below is a copy of the pettition if you want you can copy it to a word doc and then send it or scan and e-mail it.If some people are reticent about giving their address then a town or county will do,as long as we have the sigs please e-mail me for my address. I can not over emphasise the importance of this on you your kids and fundamental civil liberties,any help will be greatly appreciated.
Peter

To the House of Commons.

The Petition of trustees of the Zacchaeus 2000 Trust, and others, declares that on the 06 July 2004 Standing Committee E considering the Domestic Violence, Crime and Victims Bill, the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Constitutional Affairs did not tell the Committee that they were abolishing the rights of citizens to refuse entry to bailiffs established in around 1300, confirmed in Semayne’s case in 1604, and upheld by the courts ever since. The Committee was not informed that it was abolishing centuries of common law. Neither was the measure introduced or debated on the floor of the House of Commons.

The Petitioners request the House of Commons to restore the ancient rights of British citizens to refuse the forced entry of bailiffs.

And the Petitioners remain, etc.

Name Signature Address

(I think it can be signed by typing your name into the word document and emailing it back, easier if you do not have a scanner)

redrabbit29 · 15 February 2007 at 12:30PM

Again, big fat cats in their million pound homes living in dreamland making stupid decisions. It's ok for them as they don't live in the real world - do they?

icefall · 15 February 2007 at 12:50PM

redrabbit29 wrote:

Again, big fat cats in their million pound homes living in dreamland making stupid decisions. It's ok for them as they don't live in the real world - do they?

I know I cannot believe that they are putting this through and we don't know about it, there has been no articles in the paper about this as far as I am aware and in 3 days thats it. Once the law has been made it will be too late. I was horrified reading it.

Sloppy_Saver · 15 February 2007 at 12:52PM

I live in the real world (mortgage, 2 kids, wife, mad boxer dog) and I think that it's acceptable in certain circumstances for bailiffs to force entry to retrieve any debts they can. And by certain circumstances, I mean that every other avenue of assistance has been tried.

I for one am sick of footing the bill for people who think they're "special" and so don't have to meet their financial responsibilities and obligations (Unlike many of the people in this chat stream who have had to make tough choices to meet theirs).

So, no I won't be signing your petition. Sorry.

ZTD · 15 February 2007 at 1:26PM

I also live in the real world where DCAs "try it on" with sending out debts to to anyone with a similar sounding name, where DCAs say "we'll send the bailiffs around" at the drop of a hat, relying on people's ignorance and fear of the law, and where bailiffs go round to any old address and remove anything and rely on people not being able to afford the protection of the law in this case.

If bailiffs were jailed everytime they got it wrong, I believe they would probably be careful enough not to abuse this new law - but they won't be, will they?

So I will be signing it.

icefall · 15 February 2007 at 3:35PM

Found an online petition for this that is set up and working here

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general-consumer-issues/65926-do-you-want-bailiffs.html

MoonRose77 · 15 February 2007 at 3:40PM

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/bailiffs/

Direct link to the petition if anyone wants to use it.

Broken_hearted · 15 February 2007 at 4:12PM

Sloppy_Saver wrote:

I live in the real world (mortgage, 2 kids, wife, mad boxer dog) and I think that it's acceptable in certain circumstances for bailiffs to force entry to retrieve any debts they can. And by certain circumstances, I mean that every other avenue of assistance has been tried.

I for one am sick of footing the bill for people who think they're "special" and so don't have to meet their financial responsibilities and obligations (Unlike many of the people in this chat stream who have had to make tough choices to meet theirs).

So, no I won't be signing your petition. Sorry.

Shakes head. You don't live in the real world till you hit rock bottom and find the true worth in the things around you. I am special maybe one day you'll see how special people like me are.
I will be signing.

Cannon_Fodder · 15 February 2007 at 4:47PM

Sloppy_Saver wrote:

I live in the real world (mortgage, 2 kids, wife, mad boxer dog) and I think that it's acceptable in certain circumstances for bailiffs to force entry to retrieve any debts they can. And by certain circumstances, I mean that every other avenue of assistance has been tried.

I for one am sick of footing the bill for people who think they're "special" and so don't have to meet their financial responsibilities and obligations (Unlike many of the people in this chat stream who have had to make tough choices to meet theirs).

So, no I won't be signing your petition. Sorry.

Just as there are rogues who use the law to avoid their responsibilites (which I agree should be brought to book, somehow), equally there are rogues who will use the law - if this law is passed - to act in a way that could be detrimental to you and me, and other law-abiding people.

Even supposedly competant organisations make mistakes, while some totally incompetant individuals and organisations operate in the debt collecting sector, so I don't want anyone thinking they can come barging into my home because a computer put my name on a list by mistake...

sproggi · 15 February 2007 at 5:09PM

Sloppy_Saver wrote:

I live in the real world (mortgage, 2 kids, wife, mad boxer dog) and I think that it's acceptable in certain circumstances for bailiffs to force entry to retrieve any debts they can. And by certain circumstances, I mean that every other avenue of assistance has been tried.

I for one am sick of footing the bill for people who think they're "special" and so don't have to meet their financial responsibilities and obligations (Unlike many of the people in this chat stream who have had to make tough choices to meet theirs).

So, no I won't be signing your petition. Sorry.

If you think that you are immune just because you 'meet your financial responsibilities and obligations' then the world you live in is far from the real world!!
As Cannon Fodder rightly said 'Even supposedly competant organisations make mistakes' and I should know.

Imagine sitting at home with your mother, who has popped on for a cuppa, your 2 young children happily playing a game on the living room floor, when all of a sudden you have a police raid on your house!!!
Despite the fact that you can prove without a doubt that you are not the former tenent whom they are after for theft, all you can do is sit on the sofa cuddling your now terrified and crying children, whilst they proceed to go through every room,draw & cupboard in your house!!!

If the police can get it wrong and even get a court order with the wrong information, what makes you think that even a reputable (if there is such a thing) DCA can't. The difference is the police didn't take anything away, DCA's would.

I have signed and will make sure that everyone I know does too.

Sproggi (who now needs a strong cuppa at that memory)

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