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Egg BT Fee Official Line

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MSE_Martin
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I've had a chat with Egg regarding the confusion on its BT fee (this is the Egg card not the Egg Money card).

My question:

There's confusion over when and where the BT fee is being applied.

Can you confirm when it applies and what level it is?
Is it consistent for all customers or do you have a varying policy?
Is there a BT fee at anniversary time?

The Answer from the powers that be at Egg:


The BT fee is set at 2.5% with no cap and is applicable on all BTs (including the anniversary). There is no varying policy.



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  • Sounds like they need to get their customer services in line
  • Careful_ly
    Careful_ly Posts: 622 Forumite
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    I have a secure message in reply to querying this that states
    "Dear xxxxxx
    I'm pleased to tell you that your anniversary month is June. This means that you can take advantage of 0% until November 1st 2006 on balance transfers made to your egg card in June. You wont be charged for making a balance transfer to you egg card account during your anniversary offer."
    This is dated 27.3.06
    So this is a mistake by customer services? Do they have to honour it?
    Would I be wrong to ask them to honour it?
    What would you do if in this position?
    Feedback appreciated.

    Careful_ly :confused:

    Martin did they have any comment on people who have had incorrect secure messages about this?
  • tobago22
    tobago22 Posts: 78 Forumite
    Just received the dreaded email this morning-no mention of a fee for anniversary period.
  • sicker
    sicker Posts: 1,370 Forumite
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    My email states changes come into effect on May 1st so I am assuming my transfer on April 1st will be fee free (2004 card) Fingures xxxxxxxxxxx'd

    John
  • sly_dog_jonah
    sly_dog_jonah Posts: 1,003 Forumite
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    sicker wrote:
    My email states changes come into effect on May 1st so I am assuming my transfer on April 1st will be fee free (2004 card) Fingures xxxxxxxxxxx'd

    John
    Yeah you should be fine.

    I think Egg will be seeing en-mass cancellations in the next few weeks, especially from people who also have an egg money card (which is worth retaining).

    Now that the fee is applicable to all, its about bloomin time that credit card providers were banned from advertising balance transfers as being 0%, but with a * pointing to rubbish BT fees in the small print.

    It would be interesting to see a calculation of the actual cost of a 0% anniversary offer for 5months now, given the uncapped fee and the interest accrued on that fee over the 5months at standard APR.

    EDIT: Here goes, first of all my assumptions:
    1) Anniversary BT done on 1st day of the month.
    2) Paid off in full on last day of 5month offer (by transfer to another credit card or with debit card) (NOTE: not a good idea cutting it so fine, given clearing times etc).
    3) Minimum payments made during 5 month anniversary deal.
    4) BT Fee accrues interest at 15.9% APR

    On a £10k anniversary deal, you'd pay a £250 fee which would accrue £16.55 in interest over the 5months. So the actual cost is 2.66% of the original transfer. I reckon that works out as an effective APR of 6.4% (looks like smitty came up with similar figure below), and thats assuming you pay it off at the end of the '0%'.

    Conclusion: there are far cheaper ways of getting credit balances switched, RIP egg!
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  • Smitty
    Smitty Posts: 341 Forumite
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    Yeah you should be fine.

    Now that the fee is applicable to all, its about bloomin time that credit card providers were banned from advertising balance transfers as being 0%, but with a * pointing to rubbish BT fees in the small print.
    Yes, Im hoping for this too as I think it will inject the life back into stoozing
    It would be interesting to see a calculation of the actual cost of a 0% anniversary offer for 5months now, given the uncapped fee and the interest accrued on that fee over the 5months at standard APR.
    It is like being charged interest at 6% APR !!
  • Joe_Bloggs
    Joe_Bloggs Posts: 4,535 Forumite
    Paying an instant 2.5% on a 5 month deal is eqivalent to 6% Apr. The OFT should clamp down on this sly, underhand use of '0%' once you have paid a 6% Apr fee up front.
    J_B. (The FSA do not regulate credit cards but the OFT does, AFAIK.)
  • xela_17
    xela_17 Posts: 421 Forumite
    Careful_ly wrote:
    I have a secure message in reply to querying this that states
    "Dear xxxxxx
    I'm pleased to tell you that your anniversary month is June. This means that you can take advantage of 0% until November 1st 2006 on balance transfers made to your egg card in June. You wont be charged for making a balance transfer to you egg card account during your anniversary offer."

    I have the same email re my anniversary offer (May). :confused:
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  • Milarky
    Milarky Posts: 6,356 Forumite
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    When you get the email (got mine last night) it links to this page for more specifics:

    http://www.egg.com/visitor/0,,3_60374--View_1124,00.html

    Now go down to where it says:

    Summary of changes which come into effect on
    1 May 2006 to Egg Card:


    If you'd rather take a look at a summarised form of the
    changes to your Egg Card Conditions, these are shown

    below.


    Now go down to Condition bullet 7.2':

    Condition 7.2 bullet

    Old



    a handling fee of 2% (maximum fee £50.00) on the
    amount of each Transferred Balance made during
    an introductory offer period or made under a
    Special Promotion;

    New


    a handling fee of 2.5% on the amount of each
    Transferred Balance made during an introductory
    offer period or made under a Special Promotion;




    To me that's quite clear - the 'new' 2.5% uncapped fee only applies on the two occasions where the 'old' 2% capped at £50 fee previously applied.

    1) If you have a May 2006 or later Egg card and you take advantage of their 0% for 9 months 'introductory' offer - that will cost you 2.5% of whatever you transfer. (IF you've already used this offer in the past it either cost you nothing or a max of £50 at the time)

    2) If you have any sort of Egg card then you must just watch out for 'Special Promotions' from now on. These will be 'uncapped'. But provided you don't transfer whenever a 'Special Promotion' is applying (the safest time is the month immediately following one!) you'll be safe and won't be charged any fee.
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  • sly_dog_jonah
    sly_dog_jonah Posts: 1,003 Forumite
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    I'd rather trust martin's post from the 'horse's mouth' than your interpretation of the T&Cs Milarky, sorry!
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