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Co-OP and the tale of age verification

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  • CWCDiver
    CWCDiver Posts: 1,820 Forumite
    gaz_jones wrote: »
    But if Co-Op don't accept those types of ID, how is that her fault? It's not like she specifically asked for those types of ID to not be accepted. SHE IS DOING HER JOB! Till staff aren't exactly paid to think, they are paid to scan items and take payment from the customer.

    It's not her policy to ID for that particular product.
    It's not her policy to not accept the type of ID you presented.


    You say this like it's common knowledge. If the store don't accept that ID. They don't accept it. End of. She's not a 'moron' for not accepting it, it's called doing her job.

    But there is no official ID for buying a tomato based cooking sauce? Why should the Co Op have a list of ID they will and won't take, aside from the point that I am obviously a police officer and it's not likely that I am going to abuse the aforementioned tomato based cooking sauce, andas evidenced by my employment am over 18, not that it actually matters how old I am.

    It is her fault because she didn't use any common sense....
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  • biscit
    biscit Posts: 1,018 Forumite
    gaz_jones wrote: »
    Uhm....In the OP, the poster is moaning about getting ID's for trying to buy food with alochol in. How is it not about ID for alcohol? The reason they couldn't buy it was because it had alcohol in which they needed id to buy.

    It's about food with wine in the name, that has no alcohol in.
  • gaz_jones
    gaz_jones Posts: 5,179 Forumite
    She had the freaking jar in front of her, she only had to read the label, then she would realise the prompt was a mistake because THERE WAS NO ALCOHOL

    But what I don't understand is, The OP didn't realise it didn't have alcohol in it in his opening post (he put the dish only had 5.5% alcohol in it), and no one calls him a moron. Yet the checkout girl doesn't know and she gets called a moron. How does that make sense?
    CWCDiver wrote: »
    But there is no official ID for buying a tomato based cooking sauce? Why should the Co Op have a list of ID they will and won't take, aside from the point that I am obviously a police officer and it's not likely that I am going to abuse the aforementioned tomato based cooking sauce, andas evidenced by my employment am over 18, not that it actually matters how old I am.

    It is her fault because she didn't use any common sense....

    You can put tomato based cooking sauce in as many colours as you like, it doesn't make either of our points more or less valid.

    The co-op accept Driving Licences, Passports, Citizen cards, and whatever else it says on their website.

    Was your ID you tried to present on this list? If the answer is no, then she is not a moron.

    The screen told her to ID for that item, who is she to question the guys in Head Office. If it says you need to ID the customer, you ID the customer. It really is that simple.

    You didn't realise it didn't have alcohol in when you first made this thread, so why is she expected to know?
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  • CWCDiver
    CWCDiver Posts: 1,820 Forumite
    gaz_jones wrote: »
    But what I don't understand is, The OP didn't realise it didn't have alcohol in it in his opening post (he put the dish only had 5.5% alcohol in it), and no one calls him a moron. Yet the checkout girl doesn't know and she gets called a moron. How does that make sense?



    You can put tomato based cooking sauce in as many colours as you like, it doesn't make either of our points more or less valid.

    The co-op accept Driving Licences, Passports, Citizen cards, and whatever else it says on their website.

    Was your ID you tried to present on this list? If the answer is no, then she is not a moron.

    The screen told her to ID for that item, who is she to question the guys in Head Office. If it says you need to ID the customer, you ID the customer. It really is that simple.

    You didn't realise it didn't have alcohol in when you first made this thread, so why is she expected to know?

    So it's the "I was only following orders" defence?
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  • biscit
    biscit Posts: 1,018 Forumite
    In my youth ignorance used to be a synonym for rudeness.

    Nowadays, it seems, that some people think not allowing for common ignorance is the rudeness.

    I disagree.

    It was a stupid mistake, and one that should not be excused.
  • gaz_jones
    gaz_jones Posts: 5,179 Forumite
    CWCDiver wrote: »
    So it's the "I was only following orders" defence?

    Yes. As I've been saying in my last however many posts.

    She doesn't want to loose her job over something petty. So she played it safe.

    I'm interested to know why she is a moron because she didn't know it didn't have alcohol in it, yet you didn't know in your opening post either, and you aren't being called a moron. That doesn't make any sense to me.
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  • marleyboy
    marleyboy Posts: 16,698 Forumite
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    gaz_jones wrote: »
    But what I don't understand is, The OP didn't realise it didn't have alcohol in it in his opening post (he put the dish only had 5.5% alcohol in it), and no one calls him a moron. Yet the checkout girl doesn't know and she gets called a moron. How does that make sense?



    You can put tomato based cooking sauce in as many colours as you like, it doesn't make either of our points more or less valid.
    I'm afraid it does, no matter what colour it comes in, it still contains NO alcohol, only a compete moron would think that such a product contains alcohol, and if they were THAT moronic, a simple look at the packaging would convince them otherwise. Its no different to buying a pack of Wine Gum's and having the tiller "think" they contain alcohol, or the purchaser convinced they are getting "nissed as a pewt" by eating them.

    The list is endless for non alcoholic products, Sherry Trifle, Brandy schnapps, Baileys drinking chocolate, Wine Gums, Beef n Ale Pie, all of which need no ID to purchase, those who cannot understand that "simple" concept, should not even consider working at a checkout, as the very idea of them having to work out what constitutes acceptable ID would be just too much for them to handle.

    Its a simple word "Common Sense" should a till ping "Check ID" for a packet of Wine Gums, its quite obvious, using common sense, to deduce the error the till has pinged is the word "Wine", if a tiller really cannot grasp that basic notion, so much so, that they need to cal a manager everytime the till pings it. Aside from the massive queue forming, I could foresee such a tiller being "promoted" to shelf stacking.

    The kind of people that think Smokey Bacon crisps - contains bacon, or a Rum n Raising Ice Cream contains Rum - I would class as either pr-school, or moronic.
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  • CWCDiver
    CWCDiver Posts: 1,820 Forumite
    gaz_jones wrote: »
    Yes. As I've been saying in my last however many posts.

    She doesn't want to loose her job over something petty. So she played it safe.

    I'm interested to know why she is a moron because she didn't know it didn't have alcohol in it, yet you didn't know in your opening post either, and you aren't being called a moron. That doesn't make any sense to me.

    She didn't play it safe she played it stupidly.

    Oddly I did think it contained a small amount of alcohol, however when I wrote my post I was not in possession of the jar.

    The reason I am not being called a moron is because I didn't refuse to sell a tomato based cooking sauce to a 30 year old with some good ID.....
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  • boobyd
    boobyd Posts: 301 Forumite
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    I most likely going to get abuse for this but... i doubt the till actually ask ID for the sauce, it would be some other item,before you all jump on me I work for the Coop and have check all CIS , none have age flags, none have had age flags added / removed this year, OP could you remember what other goods you had ?
  • CWCDiver
    CWCDiver Posts: 1,820 Forumite
    boobyd wrote: »
    I most likely going to get abuse for this but... i doubt the till actually ask ID for the sauce, it would be some other item,before you all jump on me I work for the Coop and have check all CIS , none have age flags, none have had age flags added / removed this year, OP could you remember what other goods you had ?
    Yep,

    I had the Chicken Tonight, Chicken Breast Fillets, Peppers and some, I believe they were, button mushrooms...

    I am sure that none of the other items would set off your till prompts and it was when she scanned the tomato based cooking sauce that she asked...
    It must be accepted as a principle that the rifle cannot replace the speed of the horse, the magnetism of the charge and the terror of cold steel.

    The British Cavalry Manual 1907.
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