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Advice re Objecting to new housing Estate
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The_Old_Bag wrote: »I never said I had been born in the village, nor that I have lived here 6 weeks.
I never said that only "country folk" should live in a village, nor that you have to own a tractor before the vicar will marry you.
I certainly never said that anyone should be denied housing, be they local and young or city-dwellers and old.
Or have you got an objection to people retiring to the countryside ?
Does that make you ageist ?
Talk about prejudice - I suggest you look in your own back yard first.
You seem to be justifying the construction of a new housing development in your village....:rolleyes:
Your own prejudice is what is driving your objection.British Ex-pat in British Columbia!0 -
TheOldBag posted looking for advice on a problem withabix, not a lecture!0
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Give it a rest if you've nothing helpful to say. If you want to get on your soapbox, start your own post, then we can ignore it without the possibilty of missing anything useful!0
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TOB, you want my post code, here you go TR14, send em down, go for it!
If you want to know on what grounds to word an objection, you'd better come up with an objection first!
Unfortunately if you object to new housing developments in a picturesque village en masse, ultimately you will kill the village.
The reason people don't want a development in a village is because it spoils their little Idyll, in the end the you end up with a situation as you have down here where the villages become overtaken by retirees and second home owners as they are te only people that can afford to live in the villages!
From that services start closing, schools are closed and that makes it even more expensive for families living in the villages.
I wouldn't want to see yours or any other village swamped by over development, but you have to come to terms with a level of growth that is sustainable, otherwise it will catch up in one foul swoop as is happening down here.
I live in a town that is one of the biggest in Cornwall, as well one of the poorest in the UK. It has been very hard for developers to build in Cornwall for a long time, to the point where it is nigh on impossible for people other than the lucky few of us to get a property. 10%of the population of the town are sitting on council waiting lists, with more people joining the list than leaving the list every year.
As a result of the undersupply for 30 years the new development plans for the town lays down a plan of 7,000 homes in the next 15 years, there are only 10,000 homes in the town at present.
What I am saying is this, if you object to evry application, in the end you will find your self confornted with a plan for a massive development that will destroy your village.
Rather than thinking of objections, think what could benefit your village, there will in all liklihood be a section 106 agreement put in place with the developer, that can include things like funding for bus routes, schools, shops etc
The problem you have at the moment, and you are not going to like this, is that you are coming across here as a Nimby, if you are coming across here as such, you will come across elsewhere as such and as a result the chances are you will lose any argument you come up with, valid or not, as the developer will use it against you.
You think you have had a rough deal here from the comments levelled at you, in all honesty, if you take them on board they will probably do you more good than people just siding with you.0 -
I'm sorry TOB, you cannot have it both ways, either it is going to be a small development or there are going to be hundreds of houses. Which is it? It seems to me and to others that you have no valid reason for objecting and are just casting around desperately for something to put in an objection letter. As to the spurious argument about houses being built somewhere unsuitable, it is not your problem, or that of anyone else who has not bought one of them. It is the same with houses built on flood plains, it is a case of caveat emptor (buyer beware.) If people are either too stupid to know that is is probably a bad thing or know and go ahead anyway, having been warned, then that is their problem.
There was a case near us where they wanted to build a half way house for mentally handicapped youngsters or some other such group. People were objecting on the grounds that it would be "unsafe for the proposed residents" because it was "on the main road". They did not really give a toss, it was just naked nimbyism. The accomodation was built and there has never been any problems. In fact most people do not even know that the accommodation is there.I can afford anything that I want.
Just so long as I don't want much.0 -
Whether its just one house or a housing estate fortunately we live in Britain and have a right to object to it if you feel it has a detrimental effect on your life
You are not a property developer by the way :rolleyes:0 -
TOB, I am really struggling here, you want grounds for an objection, if you can give a legitoimate reason for an objection I will give you all the help in the world.
Making up objections on grounds of a non existant species (As has been suggested is crazy, you will be laughed out the place).
As far as you are saying I see no legitimate grounds for objection so I can't give you advice on how to object other than objecting on the grounds you think you have, but trust me the planning officer when summing up objections on his report will state it is no grounds for objection.
The bottom line is this, if the site is in the LDP, you have an impossible task ahead of you as it is set aside by the council for that reason, if it is not you should have it easy.0 -
Old Bag, I'm not cursed or bemoaning anyone. I certainly don't feel the need to resort to personal insults due to lack of justification like you do.
You chose to move to a village - why shouldn't other people be entitled to?
As you are a nimby, if you want a selection of postcodes, take your pick. I've lived in many places, urban, village, rural in many parts of the UK, from the Kent coast to the Outer Hebrides:
RG16 - modern house on estate in home counties commuter village
FY4 - new build house on small development in village
FY8 - Victorian house in urban/coastal
SK8 - modern house on estate in suburban conurbation
CO3 - new build house on new estate in suburban conurbation
CT16 - Victorian house in port town
TN23 - new build house in large residential extension to town
E11 - Victorian house, London
SY4 - modern house in small development in small market town
SY11 - new build house on new estate in small village
CA8 - 16th century house in small village
CA8 - new build houseon small estate in small market town
HS2 - Croft house in Western Isles
CA1 - modern house on estate, urban areaBritish Ex-pat in British Columbia!0 -
How do you know what are grounds for objecting ???
He came and posted on this site for advice that is all !! I suggest posters who cannot offer any constructive help ignore the thread
Whether you agree or not is irrelevant !! the planning laws are so complex and depends on which way the planning officer interpretations of the case and each case is different !!
Be aware of permitted development rights if the planning is passed !! if planning is given try to get a restrictive covenant before it is passed ??0
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