Can you get 'camera'd' for 'under' speed

briona wrote: »

...wait until you could clearly see the lights of the car you were overtaking in your rear-view mirror BEFORE indicating and pulling back in,,,,

This is the correct procedure according to all driving tests, including the basic minimum safety standard set by the DSA, which it has been suggested should be retaken every year (a point I cannot disagree with).

goldspanners wrote: »

...when you can see them in you nearside mirror you should be starting to move in to the left...

Is not correct procedure and as it severely reduces the safe gap between yourself and the overtaken vehicle would result in a failure on even the most basic of driving tests.
Roll on retesting to

...get the clowns out of the way and let the rest of us get on with our lives...

I know, before you tell me to slow down, I Know and I will....

This weekend I have driven on the same stretch of road quite a lot where I
live and there are a set of speed cameras which have been in place for approx 2 years now. I always take care around these cameras and all cameras where I know they are based and as I say adjust my speed accordingly. I also think I know which cameras take a picture from behind (the Gatso, as you pass the camera) and which get you as you approach them (the Truvelo).

Now these cameras that I live near are both Gatso's, presumably can only take a photo (Flash) of you passing it and on the same side of the road as the camera.

This weekend though I have a potential 6 points coming my way as these cameras flashed as I approached them, but on both occassions I was on the other side of the road. There was no other traffic about so it must have been me who set them off, and I was doing approx 38-41mph in a 30mph zone. So it must have been me that set them off. Yes, as I say speeding is speeding!! and I should slow down.

Anyway after me jabbering on and not getting to the point. Is this possible with Gatso cameras?? Or can they only get you on the side of the road the camera is on?
Also I heard that the UK Gatso cameras are not yet Authorised to take photos of both sides of the road YET?, but in other countries they are.

Please advise, so I can sleep tonight.

thanks!! :eek:

Does anyone know why the gatso cameras have gridlines on both sides of the road since it only flashes traffic going away from it?

I've heard it's to stop motorists avoiding detection by using the opposite side of the road but I've seen it done on dual carriage ways where the gaps between the central reservations are about a mile apart!

bargepole wrote: »

So, the Driving Standards Agency wants to create thousands more taxpayer-funded jobs just so the nanny state can make sure we're all driving in the completely artificial and impractical way necessary to pass a driving test.

This method is recommended by all of the driving organisations, including those who administer so-called "advanced" driving tests. It is also used in police driver training.

There is a very simple reason for this - safety. If you cut me up (by moving back in early) you reduce my safe gap. Simple as. Have a bit of imagination and you should be able to think up a few catastrophic consequences from this.

bargepole wrote: »

Meanwhile, those of us with real jobs (the ones where tax is paid to fund all this public sector extravagance) know that, once you've passed your test, that's when you start learning to drive, and the first thing anyone should do is take all DSA publications and advice with a large pinch of salt.

I'm not a huge fan of the DSA, but the driving test really is the minimum safe standard - if you couldn't pass one now, then you're not safe on the road. Sorry.

If you drive for work you'll probably have to take a driving assessment at some point (nothing to do with the DSA - this is economics at play through the insurance companies usually). If you do this on your assessment then you'll probably be assessed as being high risk, costing your employer more to have you retrained.

I also work in the real world and pay my taxes. I am self employed and do not take any money from the government or their satellite organisations.

briona wrote: »

And yet there is a place for idiots who tear around at 80mph+ on a daily basis?

But given the highlighted bit below, I can only assume you're one of them – impatient !!!!!! who think no one else should be on the roads besides them... :rolleyes:

Even though 80-90 is over the speed limit, most (but not all due to "targets") Traffic Officers are quite lenient to anyone doing under 90 as long as you've shown observation that you've seen them and slowed down and/or admit responsibility apologetically if they do stop you.

Germany is a prime example of respect on the road, everyone stays in the left all the time, no one speeds in the slow lanes so as not to carry the domino effect and people can go whatever the speed they wish on the autobahns in the fast lanes which is why they are allowed to have their unrestricted speed limits.

Unfortunately peoples driving skills and respect on UK roads are so !!!! poor due to the fact that driving tests don't really test your driving skills (especially for those who pass due to luck on the day!). I think advanced driving courses should be made compulsory after people pass tests along the lines of what Sweden do like what Undercover said in his post.

Plus middle and fast lane hoggers need to be punished especially if they drive under the speed limit in those lanes.