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Estate agents- any sympathy?
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simonjstone wrote: »im an estate agent, well not anymore. i lost my job. my company had intergrity never ever ripped off anyone and i myself hold them in high regard and wont say a bad word about them. when the market does turn like this. people not just agents will lose there jobs. what is so bad about estate agents? when there are other options out there that you could use, why do you come to us.
1 we save you trouble
2 we deal with all the time wasters
3 advertise your property in ways that would cost you more than your agents fee if you went it alone.
4 we negotiate one of the most emotionally charged and stressful times in your life (both buyers and sellers)
5 we have to keep things moving when a lot of people with out the skills we have make them fall through.
6 we sell houses better than joe public. we know what to say how to present and how to deal with issues that joe public cannot
how u find us with as much distain as you do is disgraceful. pick holes in my spelling or whatever but i work damn hard and absolutly gutted to lose a job i loved and was good at. me and my partner may have to struggle now for a while but to you people or say you have no sympathy i am left speechless at your lack of compassion
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Are you for real? What planet are you on? You've clearly never been an EA if you believe that !!!!!!.
The most EAs do is sit on their !!!!!! all day waiting for the phone ring then going and giving some punter some vastly over-valued price for their property followed by taking a couple of !!!!!! pictures of the garage and utility room with their phones, coming back to the office and sticking an ad in the window and then going back to sitting on their !!!!!! waiting for the phone to ring. :rolleyes:
If by some miracle your house does sell (which will not be through any help of the EA), they will continue sitting on their !!!!!! and help themself to a nice percentage for being professonal !!!!-sitters and then move on to the next sucker. :rolleyes:
Sympathy? Hmmm, what do you reckon?
There's some more "compassion" for you to be "speechless" at.
Rob0 -
Ive slightly more symapathy for osama bin laden (has any one else noticed what a special needs he looks?)
He looks proper PROPER thick!
anyway estate agents
If they wernt such lieing coniveing uneducated untrained unproductive retards who are more than happy to say ' we have another offer can you add a grand (so they get another measily 10 quid) (( 1%)) well then really they should all be shot in the face
porno style
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As much sympathy for an EA as I have for a poisonous weed that strangles flowers in summer then freezes and dies in the winter.[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Rise like Lions after slumber
In unvanquishable number -
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you -
Ye are many - they are few.[/FONT]0 -
That's a pretty offensive and ignorant generalisation. They are commission based salespeople. I think to acquaint them with drug dealers is ridiculous and shameful.
Commision based salespeople - just like drug dealers eh?
However, I agree that its unfair and offensive to compare EAs and drug dealers though.
For example, I doubt that the average drug dealer is quite as deceitful, dishonest and lazy as the average EA.[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Rise like Lions after slumber
In unvanquishable number -
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you -
Ye are many - they are few.[/FONT]0 -
simonjstone wrote: »what is so bad about estate agents?
Simon - on a personal level, I would feel for any sales negotiator who lost their job but given that survey after survey has shown that around 2/3 of people do not trust EAs, I think you have to recognise that the majority of punters don’t agree with your personal view. Unfortunately, the competent & courteous EA seems to be in the minority - certainly several different firms that I have dealt with over the years (renting, buying and selling) seem to have encouraged their employees to behave in ways that would not be tolerated/condoned in most other business sectors. The brashness & arrogance - and even downright contempt for some of their customers (sorry-clients) - at the height of the property boom hardly added to their "professional" image in the eyes of Joe/Joanna Public.
The reason that people use EAs/LAs is not down to choice - if you are buying, and the house that you want is with an agent you have little option other than to go via the agent; if you are in need of somewhere to rent it’s not always easy to find a LL who manages his own properties. However, people have been voting with their feet by increasingly using the internet to sell/rent their own properties.simonjstone wrote: »....when there are other options out there that you could use, why do you come to us........................we sell houses better than joe public. we know what to say how to present and how to deal with issues that joe public cannot
I’m not quite sure what particular skills, if any, the average EA has & the fact that another poster figuratively described themselves as an EA for "around 5 mins” suggests that there is very little skill or knowledge needed: the fact that you can set up without training or qualification, when you are dealing with people who are making one of the biggest investments of their adult lives, says it all IMO.simonjstone wrote: »we have to keep things moving when a lot of people with out the skills we have make them fall through.........
I think human nature being what it is, it’s understandable that those who have had rude, abrupt, and even downright dishonest treatment from EAs/LAs won’t be losing any sleep over the current difficulties faced by some of those firms. The EAs will get to know how it feels, for example, to be a potential Tenant who has money worries and is faced with massive unjustifiable admin fees, before they can secure somewhere to live, or a homeowner faced with mounting mortgage costs who tries to sell their home but finds him/herself hammered down on price because the EA ( who should be acting in their best interest as they are being paid for their “service”) pushes them to accept a truly measly offer because they can’t be ar*ed to market it properly with decent photos and they want another sale completed before the end of the month.
The fact that as these firms struggle they decide to increase their fees says it all - because EAs seem to operate some kind of cartel, they’ll all start doing it. If the sales side is struggling they’ll hammer both LLs and Tenants on the lettings side to make up their shortfalls.
Second hand mini-cooper anyone?0 -
I would say that everyone has got to make a living, but after last week........ We made an offer on a house and they would not even pass it on to the seller. The house is up for auction or sale by negotiation. I know they want to sell it at auction as they might make more money.... I still think they should pass on my offer and let the seller make up his own mind.NO to pasty tax We won!!!! Just shows that people power works! Don't be apathetic to your cause!0
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I would say that everyone has got to make a living, but after last week........ We made an offer on a house and they would not even pass it on to the seller. The house is up for auction or sale by negotiation. I know they want to sell it at auction as they might make more money.... I still think they should pass on my offer and let the seller make up his own mind.
How can you be sure they have not passed the offer on?
Perhaps the sellers have given certain fixed instructions to their EA so they wouldn't have to pass your offer on?A retired senior partner, in own agency, with 40 years experience in property sales & new build. In latter part of career specialising in commercial - mostly business sales.0 -
EA are legally required to pass on the details of all offers to the vendor (except where the vendor has instructed them in writing that they don't wish to be notified about certain types of offer, ie those below a certain price), but I have had experience as a seller of an offer made but not being passed on. After that, when I offer on a property a copy letter from me goes direct to the vendor as well.We made an offer on a house and they would not even pass it on to the seller. ... I still think they should pass on my offer and let the seller make up his own mind.0 -
I'm afraid that my recent dealings with EA leave me with little sympathy for the genre, whilst at the same time having sympathy for those losing their jobs. However, I disagree strongly with Simon that the EA puts the client first and works for them. They work for themselves, either by suggesting a silly price so it sells quickly and they get the commission (as is happening now at times) or, as was the case over the last year or so, push the price up to increase the monetary value of the commission.0
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needtoearnmoremoney wrote: »However, I disagree strongly with Simon that the EA puts the client first and works for them. They work for themselves, either by suggesting a silly price so it sells quickly and they get the commission (as is happening now at times) or, as was the case over the last year or so, push the price up to increase the monetary value of the commission.
Only when Estate Agents drop charging a percentage of the sale will they truly work for the client, until then it's not in their interest. They need to work to a fixed fee basis, and any commission based pay distorts credibility and integrity. Since they do neither then people are natuarally suspicious as their charging mechanism will go for the max every time regardless of any other factors.0
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