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How much to pay a live in carer
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Just to clarify the roles of an employed carer, my DH has been granted 30 minutes paid care a day, by Social Services, to get him undressed, bathed and prepared for bed.
The amount granted is £15.84 per hour, and if I were to use the council's care workers, that is the amount I would pay, so they would award DH the money, and he would pay it back to them.
However, I prefer to use Crossroads Care, because there is a smaller pool of staff and DH has got to know them, and trusts them, but Crossroads will only provide staff for a minimum of one hour.
They charge the same as the council in the week, but far more at weekends and bank holidays, but I prefer to pay the extra money, both for the weekend work, and for the fact that I have to pay for the whole hour, so that DH has continuity.
Not for one moment have I ever thought that the actual careworkers receive this sum! I believe they get a little more than minimum wage.
At the moment, I can cope with getting him ready in the morning, but that may change soon. As is common with Alzheimer's patients, DH is an absolute lamb with the careworkers, but gets very obstructive, difficult and verbally abusive with me.
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:grouphug:: Sandra XThink of all the beauty still left around you and be happy - Anne Frank :A0
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Sandra, it sounds as if life is very difficult for you. It is so unfair that home carers get so little help or support
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I am another voter for the experience isnt always essential.
One of my best carers owned a dog walking company, she applied for my job (social worker helped me advertise) to top up her hours and worked self employed doing her own tax etc..she just billed me. She helped with personal care and meal prep and it worked really well, she even took me to hospital appointments etc.
Another lady i employed directly had all the qualifications but i just didn't feel comfortable.. it is really really hard to accept care, especially if your mum is independent and wants to do things herself.
I now use an agency and havea list of ladies (dont mean to be sexist but cant face a chap showering me other than my husband) that I am happy for them to send.
Both counties I have lived in have paid for my insurance and both used the enhanced FISH insurance.
When I have employed others independantly an dnot via an agency the counties have done payslips telling me how much tax to pay and the HMRC have an incredibly patient team for dealing with people who employ via direct payments.
I think £11 is about right.. i know it seems a lot higher than minimum wage but if the person is self employed they have to do the tax, insurance etc .. My first county told me to pay between £9 - £10.50 p/h that was 5 years ago, this county states somewhere between £10-£13 p/h.
Are there any social clubs in the area.. we have 'wednesday club' in the park hall, always seemsto be packed with oldies playing cards, nattering and eating cake.. there is a bus that picks them up at the door and returns them after lunch.. maybe social services could find something for your mum?0 -
SandraScarlett wrote: »Just to clarify the roles of an employed carer, my DH has been granted 30 minutes paid care a day, by Social Services, to get him undressed, bathed and prepared for bed.
The amount granted is £15.84 per hour, and if I were to use the council's care workers, that is the amount I would pay, so they would award DH the money, and he would pay it back to them.
However, I prefer to use Crossroads Care, because there is a smaller pool of staff and DH has got to know them, and trusts them, but Crossroads will only provide staff for a minimum of one hour.
They charge the same as the council in the week, but far more at weekends and bank holidays, but I prefer to pay the extra money, both for the weekend work, and for the fact that I have to pay for the whole hour, so that DH has continuity.
Not for one moment have I ever thought that the actual careworkers receive this sum! I believe they get a little more than minimum wage.
At the moment, I can cope with getting him ready in the morning, but that may change soon. As is common with Alzheimer's patients, DH is an absolute lamb with the careworkers, but gets very obstructive, difficult and verbally abusive with me.
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Hi Sandra
Nice to see you posting. We often chatted on the Boots thread. I remember your tales of trips to London. So sorry your OH has Alzheimers. My Dad had it for 2 years before he died and Mum and I looked after him on our own. It was only towards the end we got help. So when Mum had problems I was able to call on them and due to falls and medication she now has 4 visits a day. None of this would have arisen if my brother thought he would look for a full time live in carer. Mum does not want it and has cleaner twice a week, a gardener and the agency. I am back at work so no longer claim carer's allowance( and you can claim it and get care from council-our social worker is well aware I was claiming it) but today I have found an independent carer who has CRB checks, NVQ IN Health and Social care and happens to have worked in hospital with Mum some years ago. She was also born in the same small Wiltshire village as me and my brothers and sisters! She is asking £8.50 and hour so we are trying her out for a few hours at weekend as sis and i are away working. Now just have to tell my brother who will not be happy to get his own way.0 -
I think the term 'carer' is causing confusion for some people. this word can have 2 different meanings in this context.
The first is someone who acts as a carer for a friend or relative. This person can be awarded carers' allowance of £60 per week to help make up for the fact that they would not be able to take on a full-time job due to their caring responsibilities.
The other is someone whose job is 'carer'. This person works professionally for clients with whom they have no other contact (on the whole). They must be paid at least NMW and have to pay tax and NI on their earnings - as long as they are over the threshold for these.
This is a bit more clear but i cant find nothing in the rules that says CA can be claimed by 'friend' or 'family/relative'.0 -
1150 a week is a lot to give to a carer. whats a DH?SandraScarlett wrote: »Oh, if only! That way, I could employ 4 of them to do 6 hour shifts each, and it would only cost me just over £240 to have DH looked after 24/7.
Unfortunately, I'll be paying £1150 per week for his respite!
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This is a bit more clear but i cant find nothing in the rules that says CA can be claimed by 'friend' or 'family/relative'.
If you look after your partner, a relative or friend who needs help because they're ill or disabled, then you are a carer. The main welfare benefit for carers is called Carer's Allowance.....
http://www.ageuk.org.uk/money-matters/claiming-benefits/carers-allowance/0 -
DH is Dear Husband.
That price is for residential care.0 -
If you look after your partner, a relative or friend who needs help because they're ill or disabled, then you are a carer. The main welfare benefit for carers is called Carer's Allowance.....
http://www.ageuk.org.uk/money-matters/claiming-benefits/carers-allowance/
this is a simple website and not a 'rule'. this does not help at all.0
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