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  • Doozergirl
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    I don't understand this blame thing over the weather.

    I mean, on its very nature its an act of god. The emphasis on the levels is understandable but frankly, as a rural person with immense empathy with them, still a little bemusing to me. It concerns me that now people will compare the treatment of Somerset with the treatment of the areas in the se where there is very little comparison in the numbers of people impacted. NOT how much the individuals are impacted, not in the least.

    Watching a news article this morning, around 60 houses are flooded on the levels - land which was wetland for thousands of years? If £10 million is being pumped (excuse the pun) into trying to keep them dry, wouldn't it just be better for the long term to allow the water to reclaim the land and buy the villagers out? If we are generally going to be getting wetter? They can't be getting all that much farming done.

    Clealry , I don't live there and feel a little more passionate about Worcester., but I can see the benefit of spending most of the money where most benefit is felt.
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  • Generali
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    michaels wrote: »
    Well it has become a good meeedya story init, Govt scrabbling, blamestorming etc.

    This morning it was let slip that all of 60 houses had been flooded on the levels which suddenly put into perspective the calls to spend £10m dredging compared to the number of homes that money could protect spent for example on the banks of the Thames or Severn.

    It'd be cheaper to give them 50 grand each to stop whining.

    Seriously, each household expects the rest of the country to spend £150,000 on bailing them out.
  • Doozergirl
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    This photo is brilliant.

    It's King Canute holding back the tide.

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    It's actually a facebook post from the Old Rectifying house, a pub on the riverfront in Worcester telling us they were still open yesterday. (Note the water seeping across the ground) Unfortunately posted about an hour before the inevitable happened. But how wonderful to have a sense of humour. I shall certainly spend some money there when it opens.
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  • Doozergirl
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    michaels wrote: »
    Well it has become a good meeedya story init, Govt scrabbling, blamestorming etc.

    This morning it was let slip that all of 60 houses had been flooded on the levels which suddenly put into perspective the calls to spend £10m dredging compared to the number of homes that money could protect spent for example on the banks of the Thames or Severn.

    Great minds ;)
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  • Doozergirl
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    Nikkster wrote: »
    Hope the doozers are ok too...

    Very kind. We're not that near to the Severn and up a hill.

    We're working on a house that has a history of flooding.
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  • vivatifosi
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    Doozergirl wrote: »
    Great minds ;)

    Great minds? It was scary. Like you and michaels are the same person. But I know he lives in Herts and you live near the Severn.

    Does not compute, does not compute, does not compute...

    My brain hurts. If you could kindly stop occupying each others' heads it would be much appreciated.
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    vivatifosi wrote: »
    Great minds? It was scary. Like you and michaels are the same person. But I know he lives in Herts and you live near the Severn.

    Does not compute, does not compute, does not compute...

    My brain hurts. If you could kindly stop occupying each others' heads it would be much appreciated.

    My secret fear that this thread consists of just me and two or three people with multiple personality disorder grows stronger by the day.:eek:
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  • PasturesNew
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    vivatifosi wrote: »
    I worked for many years near Heathrow airport. Thinking of all my friends and former colleagues in Wraysbury, Datchet, Staines, Colnbrook, Egham, Old Windsor and the local area. They are places that I know well and it is so sad seeing them on tv again. DH still works at Heathrow and also knows a lot of people facing problems. Very sad.
    Back when I was a contractor, staying away all week, I was up at Gloucester and staying in a B&B. The B&B was on the corner of the main road through a small village and the floods of 2000/2001 occurred.

    At work many of my colleagues were being cut off in Tewkesbury.

    One morning I woke up super early and started watching the floods - the water was creeping along the road. It's really creepy watching it advance, a tiny edge of water, along the gutter, pushing into the dry dust .... and it kept coming ... and coming .... and by 6.30am I'd packed and had to leave out the back door to get to my car and drive away through floodwater.

    The house directly behind the B&B was my colleague's house (that's how I'd found that B&B in the first place)... she was flooded. The B&B had to have all its floors up and wasn't back in business for months.

    I'll never forget that horrible feeling of seeing the water slowly creep, creep, creep along the road.
  • PasturesNew
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    vivatifosi wrote: »
    Lir, I hadn't even heard of the Somerset Levels before this. It's a geography lesson for me as much as anything else.
    When you drive down the M5 across Somerset the rivers you're crossing over have signs you can read. The River Parrot (one of those flooding) has always amused me. Along the M5 these rivers are just 6' wide, more like fat streams.

    Levels, as a word, is used a lot in flat areas. It's all about when the land was drained and the water pumped into channels. There are the Bedford Levels in East Anglia, just north of Ely.

    These are all over the Fens: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fens

    As a "side find", read this, it's fascinating - used to help prove the world isn't flat - Bedford Level: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedford_Level_experiment
  • PasturesNew
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    vivatifosi wrote: »

    I agree though, I don't understand the emphasis of one area over another...
    It all comes down to cost -v- benefit. There have been plans for years written down over what they'll let go and what they'll defence. Look at the East Coast communities with houses sliding into the sea.

    There is a finite amount of money and a mixed bunch of considerations, not limited to: how many people, the infrastructure, how many businesses, what sort of businesses, is it a commuter living zone or a business centre.

    Tough one to answer for when something happens as there will always be somebody not happy.

    As for dredging, I've never understood why they stopped dredging a lot of places. Most of Cornwall is silted up from old mine workings - places that were up a river/creek 200 years ago are now 4-5 miles inland.
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