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Worcester 30Si v Ideal Logic+ 30kw

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  • macman wrote: »
    I'm not querying your reason for a new boiler per se, I'm querying why you have specified a combi. I think you are possibly confusing a condensing boiler with a combi? All new domestic installs are condensing, whether combi's or conventional, and the efficiency will be much the same, assuming proper insulation of the hot tank.
    The other advanatge of a conventional boiler is that you can have both hot water and CH simultaneously-not possible with a combi.

    I'm now questioning whether I should go Combi or Conventional :). I'll do a bit more research but any more 'comparison' information you can throw at me, I'd really appreciate it!
  • Canucklehead
    Canucklehead Posts: 6,254 Forumite
    edited 15 October 2012 at 8:32PM
    Hi.

    As all three have asked about the possible demand for hot water I would agree, and strongly advise, not to go down the combi road.

    An installer should fit a boiler that is appropriate for maximum occupancy of the house. Not just the current occcupants.

    If you have the pressure and flow (mains water) then go for unvented with a system boiler.

    If you use a system (or heat only) boiler then there should be no need to up size the gas supply.

    Be aware that either system will put a network of pipes under a greater pressure than they are now at. You might get leaks.

    I wouldn't have either boiler. Vaillant instead. The Remeha would be a lot cheaper though.

    GSR.
    Ask to see CIPHE (Chartered Institute of Plumbing & Heating Engineering)
  • Don't choose a Remeha. I fitted the first one in 2 years yesterday, after being let down by the support, and it leaked inside. I phoned tech support who were unhelpful, then I asked for a call out...... 5 days! Totally unacceptable. I managed to fix the boiler myself but I was embarrassed in front of the customer because I'd suggested the boiler - even though it was the only one that would fit easily. I can safely say will never fit another Remeha ever again.
  • Ruski
    Ruski Posts: 1,628 Forumite
    What do yoiu regularly fit then Ziggy??
    Perfection takes time: don't expect miracles in a day :D
  • Ruski wrote: »
    What do yoiu regularly fit then Ziggy??
    Vaillants and Some Viessmanns and never get any problems.
  • Ruski
    Ruski Posts: 1,628 Forumite
    Excellent choices - maybe the OP will heed some advice ;)
    Perfection takes time: don't expect miracles in a day :D
  • I don't fit Worcesters. I'd be !!!!ed off if I paid all that money for a boiler only to see the heat exchanger disappearing down the condensate.....
  • Another vote to NOT get a combi. There designed for small properties really.

    Combis are not more 3fficient than regular boilers to actually heat the water - the benefts are no waiting for a tank to heat up if you run out of stored hot water, and the fact your heating water weather you use it or not with a regular.

    Depending what kind of tank you have and how much water you use, depends on which is more economical from that POV. If you dont regularly bath and use an electric shower, and theres only two of you then a combi may be the right answer, but any other combination in a 4 bed and your almost certainly better off with a regular. Fitting is cheaper as well, as theres no tank to remove or pipework to re-do, its a boiler out boiler in (plus condensing pipework if the old one isnt a condensor).

    Im going through the same thought process - and ditched the idea of a combi in favour of a regular plus new unvented tank.
  • ziggyman99 wrote: »
    Don't choose a Remeha. I fitted the first one in 2 years yesterday, after being let down by the support, and it leaked inside. I phoned tech support who were unhelpful, then I asked for a call out...... 5 days! Totally unacceptable. I managed to fix the boiler myself but I was embarrassed in front of the customer because I'd suggested the boiler - even though it was the only one that would fit easily. I can safely say will never fit another Remeha ever again.

    so what was the problem with it ? i never have a prob with tech support or any callouts (but then i haven't had to call them out)
    I'm only here while I wait for Corrie to start.

    You get no BS from me & if I think you are wrong I WILL tell you.
  • ziggyman99 wrote: »
    Don't choose a Remeha. I fitted the first one in 2 years yesterday, after being let down by the support, and it leaked inside. I phoned tech support who were unhelpful, then I asked for a call out...... 5 days! Totally unacceptable. I managed to fix the boiler myself but I was embarrassed in front of the customer because I'd suggested the boiler - even though it was the only one that would fit easily. I can safely say will never fit another Remeha ever again.


    Where did it leak? Poor show on Remeha support: will file for future reference. Agree with your choice of Vaillant and Viessmann.
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