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Due to the nature of this thread, I clicked view post, and I see, you ARE STILL RESPONDING DIRECTLY TO ME FRIDGE.
When you know perfectly well, I have you on IGNORE and wont see your posts.
When you know I have specifically told you that I cant see your posts, cannot reply to them, and its been pointed out to you by others that you have been 'stalking' me and doing this sort of thing for a long time.
You have been told CLEARLY - yet, you still choose to reply, as though I can see all your posts - and have the right to reply - had it not been this thread, I would not have chosen to view your post, and would have been unaware you are still following me around.
For the umpteenth time fridge, I have you on ignore, I will not usually see your posts, and any attempts like this, to reply 'directly' to me and discredit my points go unseen, without the ability to respond.
That does not stop those who are on ignore from responding to your posts for the benefit of other posters. Nor should it be able to, as to do so would be censorship.
What gives you the idea you have special priviledges to TELL other posters where, how or who they may post in reply to, or on which threads? Smacks of hypocrisy given your comments on censorship in this very thread.
It's noted that you choose to selectively view posts but then fail to respond to what is actually posted when you do so - not exactly in line with forum etiqutte.What a provocative opening post towards a poster who could potentially answer your queries.
Remember, if you ask question, the answer might not be what you want to hear.
My guess is your defensive posts are a censorship move to avoid certain truths that don't fit with your POV.0 -
cosmic-dust wrote: »Bordering on stalking. I wonder if you would harass any other MSE member like this.0
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Where's the problem?
So, lets say your at work, you had a injury, and they sent you to see a works doctor.
Lets say, the doctor, lied through his teeth, and sent a report to your employer saying you were not really ill or injured as you claim.
Lets say it was recorded officially, and you were made to sign that document.
You would be happy, JUST being able to use the evidence to prove to your employer ONLY that you were in the right, and the doctor was unethical and lied?
You would not then, want to take the evidence to the GMC to get that doctor investigated? Or even the police if they were doing it to others at your workplace, and had been for a long time?
Or perhaps even the media, say watchdog, to expose it, if it was a widespread, country wide problem?
Or perhaps, a regulatory body for your industry?
All would be denied due to the document, you would only be able to use it to prove to your employer what you originally claimed, and it would not matter WHAT happened, what scale of wrong doing happened (from a lie to abuse, to anything at all) you would not be able to use that evidence in any report to anyone else.
What have they got to hide, why are THEY so paranoid, if the assessment is above board?
Why would they be scared of the evidence being sent to places like the GMC, or investigatory bodies, or the media, or the police/courts/offical reviews etc?
I would assume the Dr had made a mistake and would not want to crucify him/her for that, as long as things were put right.(AKA HRH_MUngo)
Member #10 of £2 savers club
Imagine someone holding forth on biology whose only knowledge of the subject is the Book of British Birds, and you have a rough idea of what it feels like to read Richard Dawkins on theology: Terry Eagleton0 -
Transformer wrote: »There are three posters on here who are the stalkers, fridge, cosmic dust and seven day weekend. Anyone would think you are atos protectors.
So it is not possible for anyone to question atos without getting attacked, let alone from other posters.
I say again atos has nowt to worry about being recorded and if you had good experience, great, but I dont see many posting positively. I dont read newspaper articles or in the news of people happy with assesors who are disabled.
I also done see it a problem to point out the official atos rep is not bothering to input.
Simple how do they assess the mentally ill if not experienced or medically trained in that area, as touching your knees does not do it. I am a poster asking the question, not needing to be ridiculed for wanting reasurance after reading many negative stories.
If other posters think my posts OTT then dont reply you have the option to ignore:D
I'm sorry you think I am a stalker. I thought I had just tried to give you some of the reassurance that you asked for.
I'm not on the side of ATOS but it is just not accurate nor fair to the honest assessors to assume that they are all a bunch of liars.
I was just trying to bring some balance to the thread after all the negative comements.
Sorry if that is classed as stalking.(AKA HRH_MUngo)
Member #10 of £2 savers club
Imagine someone holding forth on biology whose only knowledge of the subject is the Book of British Birds, and you have a rough idea of what it feels like to read Richard Dawkins on theology: Terry Eagleton0 -
Transformer wrote: »Mistake, right:rotfl: More like target driven I can only suspect, but unless atos in put we just have to guess and stay nervous of trusting them.
But what can they say other than 'there are no targets'. No-one will believe them anyway!
Can I just say something. I used to work for a Local Authority in a public-facing role and I did a good job, and had several official compliments from members of the public.
But I would have taken exception to being recorded while I was helping someone. Why? Well for a start it would make me really nervous, so that I may not do as good a job as I normally would have done. One point against me.
Secondly, I might actually make a mistake and give them wrong information. Everybody does it sometimes. That mistake would be held against me for all eternity. Two points against me. Thirdly, Everyman and his wife would be wanting to record, trying to trip me up and it would make for a horrible working environment.
Can you see that there might be perfectly valid reasons for not wanting things recorded?(AKA HRH_MUngo)
Member #10 of £2 savers club
Imagine someone holding forth on biology whose only knowledge of the subject is the Book of British Birds, and you have a rough idea of what it feels like to read Richard Dawkins on theology: Terry Eagleton0 -
xXMessedUpXx wrote: »I think i'm one of the very few people with mental health problems who has been lucky with ATOS assessments.
One of the few people in this situation who's honest enough to admit that she's had no problems with ATOS.0 -
cosmic-dust wrote: »Perhaps you could enlighten us as to how many alleged sites ATOS have closed down. Is it sites where people like yourself allege all sorts? Where people like yourself border very closely to libel.
Clicky here, read links.[greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
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The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
and we should be deeply worried about that[/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)0 -
RE: Atos responding to ANYTHING. They're not allowed to.
"
I represent Atos customer relations team and can provide information to members of this community relating to assessments we conduct in respect of Employment and Support Allowance, Industrial Injuries Disablement Benefit and Disability Living Allowance. I am not a qualified Health Care Professional and am therefore unable to comment on particular medical conditions.
Due to legislative, legal and privacy reasons, we are unable to answer or respond to every comment within this community, but do advise that if you need further information you contact our customer relations team via email at [EMAIL="customer-relations@atoshealthcare.com"]customer-relations@atoshealthcare.com[/EMAIL]. "
To respond on a case by case basis is Data protection Breach. they can only answer questions like, when was ATOS set up, where does ATOS operate. They cant even answer on general medical grounds in case someone sues them for wrong info...
RE: Censorship/Website TKO's/ATOS's presence on forums...
i'll let ATOS explain how it works to you...
More Complaints, less money.... Less Complaints, more money.
RE: Working practises....
If you seriously have a problem with ATOS and their working practices, report it to your local MP, after all ATOS is DWP is Government.
Tip for ATOS:
"ATOS Help lines for clinicians
Please do not give these numbers to patients"
Erm, dont post them on a publically viewable, government owned website then!
Of course they can answer many of the questions asked.
What legislation/data protection issue or any other reason can they not answer the questions asked by myself?
There are none.[greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
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The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
and we should be deeply worried about that[/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)0 -
Oldernotwiser wrote: »One of the few people in this situation who's honest enough to admit that she's had no problems with ATOS.
I bet they were not offered a copy of the medical report before it was sent to the decision maker.
Just because you get a decision you agree with, does not mean problems did not occur with the assessment.[greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
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The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
and we should be deeply worried about that[/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)0 -
cosmic-dust wrote: »Bordering on stalking. I wonder if you would harass any other MSE member like this.
Hardly stalking, ATOS turned up, then have gone silent. Fair comment to wonder where they are.
What are your views on people stalking me?[greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
[/greenhighlight][redtitle]
The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
and we should be deeply worried about that[/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)0
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