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Why was IMMMIGRATION ignored in the budget>?
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The entire economic downturn is due to immigration?
I learn something new every day
I was responding to Generali's clever comment where he said that in difficult times people become more nationalistic and lash out at 'others' such as immigrants.
It is of course wrong that the recession is caused by immigrants but some people will simply find any common enemy to blame.0 -
I don't want to get involved in this debate as both sides have a point to make but both sides also tend to end up looking as bad as each other.
What I would like to comment on is how much Dervish's written English is improving, in direct contract to the deterioration of Topov's. It's like they're linked on a sliding scale. What's going on?"I can hear you whisperin', children, so I know you're down there. I can feel myself gettin' awful mad. I'm out of patience, children. I'm coming to find you now." - Harry Powell, Night of the Hunter, 1955.0 -
Harry_Powell wrote: »I don't want to get involved in this debate as both sides have a point to make but both sides also tend to end up looking as bad as each other.
What I would like to comment on is how much Dervish's written English is improving, in direct contract to the deterioration of Topov's. It's like they're linked on a sliding scale. What's going on?
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My day-time typing is always better than my night-time typing.0 -
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My day-time typing is always better than my night-time typing.
lol, I hear you. My pre-pub postings are always better quality than my post-pub postings
"I can hear you whisperin', children, so I know you're down there. I can feel myself gettin' awful mad. I'm out of patience, children. I'm coming to find you now." - Harry Powell, Night of the Hunter, 1955.0 -
No & No. Let's first explore the claims that there's a lot syphoned and that it is affecting the economy then I shall consider backing up my post with facts and figures.
But surely it would be better to refute the original claims, rather than inventing other far fetched assumptions?Thankyou Sir Alex for 26 years0 -
What annoys me about this forum is that it is completely unregulated. Where on earth are the Mods, and why don't they ever get involved.
OK, I agree that regulation in general is a bad thing, but if we've learnt anything over the past few months its that complete deregulation sucks.
Come on Mods. Pull your fingers out and do your jobs. Close racist threads. Ban those who are using multiple IDs to take the !!!! out of the forum. Have some respect, people, please.0 -
No & No. Let's first explore the claims that there's a lot syphoned and that it is affecting the economy then I shall consider backing up my post with facts and figures.
A quick google reveals this.
Poles working in the UK sent home an estimated £1.8billion last year.
Money Downing Street hoped might be ploughed into the British economy is instead financing a property and consumer boom in Poland.
The Polish Central Bank said the two million Poles who left home to work elsewhere in Europe sent home at least £3billion in 2007 via money orders and electronic financial transactions.
It is estimated that around half of them are in the UK. One Warsaw newspaper estimated the amount sent from Britain to be a record £1.8billion, ten per cent up on 2006.
But the Central Bank said the actual figure could be considerably higher.
Its statistics do not take into account the thousands of Poles who preferred to travel home on coaches or planes with their earnings in cash.
This would include those working in the "black economy" and thus not paying tax.
Experts say the figure for 2008 is likely to be even higher as Poles continue to cash in on the good wages available in the UK.Thankyou Sir Alex for 26 years0 -
"Its not racist to talk about immigration"What annoys me about this forum is that it is completely unregulated. Where on earth are the Mods, and why don't they ever get involved.
OK, I agree that regulation in general is a bad thing, but if we've learnt anything over the past few months its that complete deregulation sucks.
Come on Mods. Pull your fingers out and do your jobs. Close racist threads. Ban those who are using multiple IDs to take the !!!! out of the forum. Have some respect, people, please.
Cant remember who said that now, or whether i got the quote correct, but its true.Thankyou Sir Alex for 26 years0 -
I would agree that those who feel aggrieved should look to a political solution.
If they are blaming the current political parties for causing the problems then it also seems rational that they should seek a political solution from the one political party that appears to advocate direct solutions to immigration - namely the BNP.
I am no BNP supporter but you can understand that people vote for them not looking to blame foreigners per se but to elect someone who can reverse the problems that unchecked immigration has caused.
The fact that racist attacks in this country are so rare suggests that the majority of people do wish to use democracy - ie voting for a party - to solve problems and that they do no go out in vigilante gangs burning down Moslem houses. I trust the great British public are more intelligent and caring than thhat.
After all look how many people have been labelled as racists in this thread alone! and yet this is a discussion platform for ideas - we debate. I dont think anyone here is guilty of any racist incitement or violence in the greater community , yet some have been labelled Nazis by people such as Blathering Dad, which is an evil, abhorrent and sickening insult.
It seems tolerance is in general short supply from all sides?
I'm finding this tricky but I'd like to engage in genuine debate, not point scoring.
To start with, do you mind me asking if you've ever lived in a country other than the UK (say for more than 3 months) or do you speak another language well?
Also, at what point do you think immigrants become British? Once they learn the language? Perhaps their kids are once they've been through the British educational system?
I'd love to get some insight into your views, even if I don't agree with you perhaps I can learn from you.
PS - Reading back I sound like some bloody hippy or well meaning Liberal. I'm not.0 -
Generali . .you're a bloody hippy.0
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