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    • Pauli2
    • By Pauli2 13th Sep 18, 7:51 PM
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    Pauli2
    Two speeding tickets inside 15 mins
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    • 13th Sep 18, 7:51 PM
    Two speeding tickets inside 15 mins 13th Sep 18 at 7:51 PM
    Same camera but in different cars. The first is when I was returning in a pool car and about 15 mins later coming back in my private car. I've paid the £100 fine and sent my DL off for my offence and now the works car notice has arrived, I'm waiting find out from work exactly the date it was issued. However in the case everything was done correctly what are my chances of getting one offence cancelled due to the close proximity of the offences and only 3 points being applied? Thanks.
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    • Ergates
    • By Ergates 15th Sep 18, 12:43 PM
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    Ergates
    This is the biggest load of rubbish i have read on this forum
    Originally posted by Ganga
    Did you hear the whoosh?
    • TooManyPoints
    • By TooManyPoints 15th Sep 18, 1:36 PM
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    TooManyPoints
    No repeaters? Are there streetlights? 30.
    Unless the road in question is a motorway.
    • Hermione Granger
    • By Hermione Granger 15th Sep 18, 1:38 PM
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    Look, it's very simple. EVERY SINGLE person who passed their driving test in the UK has known this at one point.
    Originally posted by AdrianC

    Known it at one point but may well have forgotten which is why when posting what appears to be a statement of fact on a motoring forums, it's best to try to make sure that when you post is actually correct or at the very least, can't easily be misinterpreted.


    Speaking of which, I'm glad you're here as I've been meaning to ask.
    Have you managed to find the relevant section of the Vienna convention on international traffic that covers the minimum insurance requirement when driving in signatory countries yet?
    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 15th Sep 18, 5:24 PM
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    Car 54
    Look, it's very simple. EVERY SINGLE person who passed their driving test in the UK has known this at one point.


    Are there repeaters? They tell you the limit.
    No repeaters? Are there streetlights? 30.
    No repeaters or streetlights? NSL.
    So what's NSL? Count the carriageways. One? 60. Two? 70.
    Bingo. You always know the prevailing, enforceable speed limit, within a few hundred metres at most.



    And, to pre-empt... That's for cars/motorcycles/small vans. Bigger stuff differs.
    Originally posted by AdrianC

    Agreed . But it appears that many can't even count the number of carriageways*. How can they remember the rest?


    * = According to Joan Rivers, even Liz Hurley can count to two if she opens her blouse.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 15th Sep 18, 5:36 PM
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    I'm sure they can count to two, it's just they don't appear to actually understand what a carriageway is. It's not a terribly hard concept...
    • Nilrem
    • By Nilrem 15th Sep 18, 5:42 PM
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    Nilrem
    Same camera but in different cars. The first is when I was returning in a pool car and about 15 mins later coming back in my private car. I've paid the £100 fine and sent my DL off for my offence and now the works car notice has arrived, I'm waiting find out from work exactly the date it was issued. However in the case everything was done correctly what are my chances of getting one offence cancelled due to the close proximity of the offences and only 3 points being applied? Thanks.
    Originally posted by Pauli2
    No chance of getting one removed.

    You missed the speed camera twice in a few minutes, you comitted two offences, on two separate trips.
    You're paying for it.

    A friend used to speed out of one of the local villages a lot, right up until the day he got done twice in 30 minutes using the same car, they didn't say "well you've just had one ticket from the camera, we'll let you off the second one mate", as he committed two separate speeding offences.
    • Pauli2
    • By Pauli2 17th Sep 18, 12:23 PM
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    Pauli2
    Thanks for all the replies.

    After checking with my employer, I have now discovered the NIP to them was issued and dated 18 days after the date of offence.
    • waamo
    • By waamo 17th Sep 18, 12:27 PM
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    waamo
    Thanks for all the replies.

    After checking with my employer, I have now discovered the NIP to them was issued and dated 18 days after the date of offence.
    Originally posted by Pauli2
    If you are thinking it's late then ask them for the DocRef on page 2 of the V5c.
    This space for hire.
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 17th Sep 18, 12:28 PM
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    AndyMc.....
    Thanks for all the replies.

    After checking with my employer, I have now discovered the NIP to them was issued and dated 18 days after the date of offence.
    Originally posted by Pauli2
    Have you seen the V5?
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    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 17th Sep 18, 12:29 PM
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    AdrianC
    Thanks for all the replies.

    After checking with my employer, I have now discovered the NIP to them was issued and dated 18 days after the date of offence.
    Originally posted by Pauli2
    I bet they lease the car, and it went to the lease firm first.
    • Pauli2
    • By Pauli2 17th Sep 18, 12:30 PM
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    Pauli2
    Ask who for the V5? Why, would that make a difference?

    Thanks
    • waamo
    • By waamo 17th Sep 18, 12:36 PM
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    Ask who for the V5? Why, would that make a difference?

    Thanks
    Originally posted by Pauli2
    Your company that received the NIP.
    This space for hire.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 17th Sep 18, 12:37 PM
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    Ask who for the V5? Why, would that make a difference?
    Originally posted by Pauli2
    Because the name and address on the V5C at the time of the offence are who the first NIP are sent to. Remember, all they have to go off is the registration.

    That first NIP is the one that has to be within 14 days.

    Your employer will almost certainly not have the car registered to them. It will be registered to the lease firm.
    If that's the case, then the lease firm received the first NIP in time to reply to it, naming their customer - your employer - and the second NIP be sent to them by day 18.
    They then had 28 days to reply naming which employee they believed was driving. In a large firm, it will be the co.car admin, perhaps at head office, who will have initially received that.
    They then replied within 28 days, giving the details of whichever sub-office or department is responsible for the pool car.
    That admin person will then have received their own NIP, checked the car log, seen you signed it out at the relevant time, and sent your details back within 28 days.
    You then receive your NIP.
    Last edited by AdrianC; 17-09-2018 at 12:39 PM.
    • sleepymans
    • By sleepymans 17th Sep 18, 12:46 PM
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    Look, it's very simple. EVERY SINGLE person who passed their driving test in the UK has known this at one point.


    Are there repeaters? They tell you the limit.
    No repeaters? Are there streetlights? 30.
    No repeaters or streetlights? NSL.
    So what's NSL? Count the carriageways. One? 60. Two? 70.
    Bingo. You always know the prevailing, enforceable speed limit, within a few hundred metres at most.



    And, to pre-empt... That's for cars/motorcycles/small vans. Bigger stuff differs.
    Originally posted by AdrianC
    Thatís really helpful and succinct.

    I passed my driving test in 1978 and drive up to 15k miles a year. I had one SP30 in 1990 and been clean ever since. BUT seriously have never heard the term Ďrepeatersí in the context of speed limits. Iím not being sarcastic and am keen to keep my knowledge up to date..What is a repeater?

    TIA
    Goddess
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 17th Sep 18, 12:50 PM
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    BUT seriously have never heard the term ‘repeaters’ in the context of speed limits. I’m not being sarcastic and am keen to keep my knowledge up to date..What is a repeater?
    Originally posted by sleepymans
    Y'know as you drive through a 40 or 50 limit, there's small regular reminder signs of what the limit is at the side of the road?

    Those.

    If there are streetlights and it's NSL, then it needs to have (/) reminders.
    If there aren't streetlights but it's 30, then it needs to have 30 reminders.


    https://goo.gl/maps/G6kCbAzqEWH2
    Last edited by AdrianC; 17-09-2018 at 12:53 PM.
    • TooManyPoints
    • By TooManyPoints 17th Sep 18, 4:25 PM
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    TooManyPoints
    If there are streetlights and it's NSL, then it needs to have (/) reminders.
    And once again, unless the road in question is a motorway.
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 17th Sep 18, 5:23 PM
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    And once again, unless the road in question is a motorway.
    Originally posted by TooManyPoints
    But not all motorways are national speed limit.
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    • Mercdriver
    • By Mercdriver 17th Sep 18, 8:29 PM
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    But not all motorways are national speed limit.
    Originally posted by AndyMc.....
    But motorways are the opposite of 30mph areas. They are NSL unless there are repeaters showing otherwise or in 'Smart' Motorways.
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