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    • Firetastic
    • By Firetastic 9th Apr 18, 7:26 PM
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    Desktop computers dead
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    Desktop computers dead 9th Apr 18 at 7:26 PM
    I was wondering does anyone still use desktop computers anymore? I sit and type this on my all in one desktop computer. The computer guy I used to use just uses an ipad now and doesn't have any desktop or laptops in his house.

    So you think desktop computers will eventually just die off like the dinousaurs did. If not why not and what do you prefer?
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    • Tom99
    • By Tom99 9th Apr 18, 7:30 PM
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    I think the desktop will eventually die but not the caddy/monitor option.
    • Neil Jones
    • By Neil Jones 9th Apr 18, 7:43 PM
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    Desktop computers are still useful for gaming machines as its far cheaper to do it that way. The equivalent laptop is four figures and an all-in-one is probably just as expensive.

    Personally I can't get on with all-in-one's, I've always preferred a desktop or a laptop. But each to their own.
    • ididntgetwhereiamtoday
    • By ididntgetwhereiamtoday 9th Apr 18, 7:45 PM
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    I just use my iPhone. I did have an iPad but I gave it up as it just seems pointless as the phone does everything and more than the iPad or desktop.
    Desktops in the home are dead and laptops won!!!8217;t be far behind.
    I didn't get where i am today by not reading moneysavingexpert.com
    • Pauciloquent 1
    • By Pauciloquent 1 9th Apr 18, 7:54 PM
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    Yes, albeit a very small one which is therefore easily portable if necessary.
    They have pro's & con's - for me a desktop is far cheaper than the equivalent in a laptop and no iPad (that I could afford, certainly) will cope easily with what I do on the PC.


    SIL has huge desktop PC's - for gaming, mainly. Huge, water-cooled beasts they are. He spends more on a graphics card alone than I spend on a full computer though.
    Android is fast enough on decent-spec hardware but the sheer amount of updates and the frequency of new versions would put me off trying to use an android-based tablet or similar as my main machine.

    Horse for courses, i suppose but IMHO desktops will always have a place.
    • boliston
    • By boliston 9th Apr 18, 7:54 PM
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    I would not want to have to use a phone or ipad when i'm at home!

    For home use a have a 27 inch screen - dell u2713hm which is much easier on the eye than squinting at a mobile device.

    I have a nexus 6 phone which is great for when i'm out and about.

    I'm not at all keen on all in one devices like an imac as they seem expensive and also they can be fiddly to change parts, like adding and removing hard drives etc so I would prefer a traditional "tower" pc
    • that
    • By that 9th Apr 18, 8:04 PM
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    Desktops are more economical to own. Get less hot. Often they can be upgraded to some extent, however once the manufacturers stop from writing drivers you are stuffed.

    I recently got a 32GB 16 core Xeon CPU PC. Lovely and fast, but no proper drivers for the o/s (server 2016) with a c600 chipset. Bodging it, I do get 200Mb/s with ssd, but with traditional hard drive i get 11mb/s which is about as slow as a usb2 mem stick. I also get 230Gb/s on the SSD using it on a usb 3 adapter too, but drive is capable of over 500Mb/s.

    Yes, laptops are winning, except my quad core HD 4000, and Intel do not make divers for windows 10 for that model either, so it is running in a generic mode.

    Either way you get shafted.
    Last edited by that; 09-04-2018 at 8:26 PM.
    • Johnmcl7
    • By Johnmcl7 9th Apr 18, 8:31 PM
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    The role of desktops has certainly been reduced but they still have their place for specialist/high performance machines or very cheap PC's.

    I use a desktop PC for gaming and photo/video editing work, primarily a desktop for its high performance - it has a water cooled hex core i7 running at 4.2ghz, GTX 1070 and 18.5TB storage 500GB of which is solid state plus a pair of blu-ray readers.

    It's not just the performance though but the flexibility, parts can easily be upgraded or replaced as needed whereas with laptops and a lot of AIO's, upgrades and repairs are very limited. My PC is now around six years old and been gradually upgraded over the years as needed, it's running low on storage so probably time to stick a pair of 12TB's inside.

    I previously used high performance laptops but they're significantly more expensive, they're not very flexible and they usually run hot and noisy. On the move I've got some silent ultralight laptops then just keep the heavy stuff for the desktop which I'd rather sit at to work on with a proper keyboard, mouse and monitor.

    John
    • Carrot007
    • By Carrot007 9th Apr 18, 8:41 PM
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    I sit and type this on my all in one desktop computer.
    Originally posted by Firetastic
    Yes desktops are getting less popular.

    You have a laptop in a bigger case not a desktop.

    Will they die off? Not as servers any time soon.

    Laptops have small screens. I need 2 24 inch at a minimum. I don't see any 24 inch laptops. But hey I would use one with an external monitor and keyboard and mouse if the price was right.

    What is happening is most people have realised they don't need a lot fortheir needs these days. So maybe a 17 inch laptop does fine.
    • EssexExile
    • By EssexExile 9th Apr 18, 9:10 PM
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    I have a phone, a laptop, a Kindle & a desktop. I can't do serious stuff on the little things, I like my desktop. I hope they don't die out.
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    • googler
    • By googler 9th Apr 18, 11:10 PM
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    I want to sit at my desk, with a big monitor.

    I want the keyboard close to me, at the height of my elbows, and I want the monitor about 18 inches beyond the keyboard, at least 8 inches off the desk. Can't do that with a laptop, where I would have a permanent stoop, looking down at the top edge of the keyboard.

    Desktop for me, every time.
    • boliston
    • By boliston 9th Apr 18, 11:31 PM
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    I have a "desktop" pc but it has never actually been used on a desk - I have my monitor on a small table (about 18" high) so I can sit on my sofa while I use the PC - I have a wireless keyboard with integrated touchpad that rests on the arm of my sofa. The actual pc fits nicely under the small table.
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    • By that 9th Apr 18, 11:53 PM
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    I want to sit at my desk, with a big monitor.

    I want the keyboard close to me, at the height of my elbows, and I want the monitor about 18 inches beyond the keyboard, at least 8 inches off the desk. Can't do that with a laptop, where I would have a permanent stoop, looking down at the top edge of the keyboard.

    Desktop for me, every time.
    Originally posted by googler
    Laptop + docking station. My work one supports 3 monitors (i have 3*22 inch ones), 8 usb ports, 32 GB ram and has a 500GB ssd. I never use it as a proper laptop. A lovely laptop it is, but fairly sure there was no change from 3000
    Last edited by that; 10-04-2018 at 12:33 AM.
    • onomatopoeia99
    • By onomatopoeia99 10th Apr 18, 12:07 AM
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    I was wondering does anyone still use desktop computers anymore? I sit and type this on my all in one desktop computer. The computer guy I used to use just uses an ipad now and doesn't have any desktop or laptops in his house.

    So you think desktop computers will eventually just die off like the dinousaurs did. If not why not and what do you prefer?
    Originally posted by Firetastic
    No. I don't want a tiny 17" screen. I don't want the compromise of mobile processors, or the lack of upgrade and configuration options that laptops give.

    I have a Dell Precision laptop with an i7 processor, 16GB RAM, M2 SSD and 4k touch screen. It's very nice, convenient for trips etc but trying to use it every day for work, or at home would drive me batty.
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    • Firetastic
    • By Firetastic 10th Apr 18, 8:20 AM
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    I just wonder how people manage to type letters on an Ipad and stuff.
    • dipsomaniac
    • By dipsomaniac 10th Apr 18, 8:22 AM
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    anyone tried changing the cpu on a laptop? anyone tried using word, access, excel, etc on a tablet/phone?

    desktop with 3 x monitors is where the proper work is done:-)
    Last edited by dipsomaniac; 10-04-2018 at 8:59 AM.
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    • Ganga
    • By Ganga 10th Apr 18, 8:55 AM
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    I still use my desk top,have a laptop that my son gave me,what a clart on using the small pad to move the cursor round the screen ( i know you can connect a mouse )but my wireless mouse and keyboard do what i need,being an old git mobile phone/i pad etc techno has passed me by.
    ITS NOT EASY TO GET EVERYTHING WRONG ,I HAVE TO WORK HARD TO DO IT!
    • VoucherMan
    • By VoucherMan 10th Apr 18, 9:42 AM
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    I want to sit at my desk, with a big monitor.

    I want the keyboard close to me, at the height of my elbows, and I want the monitor about 18 inches beyond the keyboard, at least 8 inches off the desk. Can't do that with a laptop, where I would have a permanent stoop, looking down at the top edge of the keyboard.

    Desktop for me, every time.
    Originally posted by googler
    Ditto. I spend most of my working week sat in front of carefully positioned (according to some health and safety mumbo jumbo) screens & keyboard, so it's what I'm used to. Why would I want to come home and squint at a tiny little 6 inch, 10 inch or even a medium sized laptop screen?

    I'm probably not the 'average user', I don't have the technical knowledge, but I still help out (moderator style) on a few sites, as well as keeping all my own stuff in order. I started using a bigger screen (28 inch) which was great as I could do more at the same time, being able to see a few windows at once instead of flicking between them. Then I got another monitor the same, so now have 2 x 28 inch next to each other.

    I find it so much easier being able to view multiple windows, programs, spreadsheets or whatever I'm doing. I can get the 'computer stuff' done so much quicker, and then leave it, and get on with the rest of my life.


    If the day ever comes that all I want to do is read and post inane Twatter and Farcebook comments I'd probably consider something like an iPad, but for now it would still be nothing more than a dust gathering gimmick.

    I'd even get rid of my 'smartphone' and buy a proper (phone & text only) mobile if I could find any decent, and reasonably cheap ones.

    • GunJack
    • By GunJack 10th Apr 18, 9:56 AM
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    For productivity, versatility, maintainability and cost-effectiveness(? sp) a desktop wins hands-down every time

    The other thing that we (the human race) is storing up for itself with over-use of poxy small screens on phones & tablets is no end of eyesight problems. This has been brought home to me recently as after almost 40 years of looking at various screens I now need glasses for reading, VDU use, phone & tablet, etc...How quickly is this gong to happen to younger people who spend all their time squinting at a phone from a very young age??
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    • john22
    • By john22 10th Apr 18, 10:04 AM
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    All these different versions of a computer have a role to play. Desktops will not die as they have their own role to play.

    The biggest problem is people can be very lazy and ignorant to their own personal needs and will buy devices based on the wrong things like keeping up with the Joneses or ignorant of technology.
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