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    • CALLUMFORBES
    • By CALLUMFORBES 11th Jan 18, 4:16 PM
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    URGENT HELP - DEBT RECOVERY PLUS (strange circumstances)
    • #1
    • 11th Jan 18, 4:16 PM
    URGENT HELP - DEBT RECOVERY PLUS (strange circumstances) 11th Jan 18 at 4:16 PM
    Hi guys,
    I have a debt recovery plus letter that was sent to an old address. By my own fault when moving house 3 years ago I had not changed my log book (which i understand can have separate issues, but has been changed now).

    Now they have the correct details for me, I have tried to argue the ticket as court action has been threatened against me. I do actually think the fine of £145 is not 'commercially justifiable' after reading previous advice, but they will not let me argue it and even receive evidence of the supposed event.

    Question is, should I just pay up to avoid further action, as I am slightly worried they would go to the DVLA with regards to my logbook (which has now been changed!), or should I continue as I was?

    I did phone today and was pretty aggressively told to seek some good legal advice and they will be in touch. (FYI the originaly charge that i received to my correct address, not the original that i've never seen, was 08/12)

    Any help will be greatly appreciated!
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    • IamEmanresu
    • By IamEmanresu 11th Jan 18, 4:19 PM
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    • #2
    • 11th Jan 18, 4:19 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 4:19 PM
    Which parking company?

    told to seek some good legal advice
    You've come to the correct place.
    Idiots please note: If you intend NOT to read the information on the Notice of Allocation and hand a simple win to the knuckle dragging ex-clampers, then don't waste people's time with questions on a claim you'll not defend.
    • waamo
    • By waamo 11th Jan 18, 4:22 PM
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    • #3
    • 11th Jan 18, 4:22 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 4:22 PM
    You need to read the thread at the top of this forum that tells Newbies to read it first. There is a section on debt collectors in it.

    The wrong address issue must crop up 3 or 4 times a day on here.
    This space for hire.
    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 11th Jan 18, 4:23 PM
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    • #4
    • 11th Jan 18, 4:23 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 4:23 PM
    Forget the DVLA issue. Nothing to worry about.

    You are clearly now at the stage of having to deal with debt collector's letters.
    Post #4 on the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread gives comprehensive guidance on how to deal with debt collector's letters.

    You only need to react if you get a Letter Before Claim or court papers.
    Last edited by KeithP; 11-01-2018 at 4:34 PM.
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    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 11th Jan 18, 4:24 PM
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    • #5
    • 11th Jan 18, 4:24 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 4:24 PM
    This is a scam, do not pay them a penny.

    Debt collectors cannot take you to court, they lie Never phone any of these scammers. if it gets to court, judges love paper trails.

    At present ignore but if you get a genuine letter before action from a solicitor or the PPC come back to us.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 11th Jan 18, 4:31 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 4:31 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 4:31 PM
    DRP are debt collectors, they are powerless, they can do you no harm as all they can do is send threatening letters, so you need to follow the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #4 about debt collectors.

    Of more interest is which parking company (PPC) is involved here, because if they issue court papers, they will be to your former address. If you don’t get them to defend, you run the real risk of a default judgment against you, with a likely credit-trashing CCJ.

    I am slightly worried they would go to the DVLA with regards to my logbook (which has now been changed!)
    They can’t, the PPC can only access your details from the DVLA once, so they will continue to use your former address. To resolve this, and to insure against a possible CCJ, you must notify the PPC of your new address in writing, preferably by email or if posting by first class with free Certificate of Posting from your PO counter - NOT Signed For.

    Are you aware that you also have to update the DVLA separately for your driving licence - that carries a £1,000 fine for failure.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 11th Jan 18, 4:33 PM
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    • #7
    • 11th Jan 18, 4:33 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 4:33 PM
    You will not get any help from DRP, they are brain dead

    DRP are simply meaningless timewasters with zero power
    so ignore them and never contact them again

    You are advised just to update your records with
    the PPC concerned and request confirmation
    You don't want court action sent to your old address.

    In the meantime ignore the pond bottom feeders
    that call themselves DRP .... TOTAL RUBBISH
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

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    • CALLUMFORBES
    • By CALLUMFORBES 11th Jan 18, 4:38 PM
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    • #8
    • 11th Jan 18, 4:38 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 4:38 PM
    Thanks for your reply! I've only had correspondence from Debt Recovery Plus. The last letter was issued stating a 'notice of intended court action'. I have read previous threads but cannot find anything to cover my concern that when the issue was charged my car was attached to the wrong address?

    I have called them which I understand was a mistake, so unsure what steps to take next, as they will keep sending things to my old correspondence I imagine?

    Thanks very much for the help.
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 11th Jan 18, 4:45 PM
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    • 11th Jan 18, 4:45 PM
    so unsure what steps to take next,
    You inform the PPC of your new address and you instruct them to inform any and all agents involved in this.

    You then ignore anything further that comes to you other than a LBA or MCOL (NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #5 explains acronyms).

    If you want further advice you need to be answering questions posed by regulars - who are actually trying to help you.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • CALLUMFORBES
    • By CALLUMFORBES 11th Jan 18, 4:48 PM
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    You inform the PPC of your new address and you instruct them to inform any and all agents involved in this.

    You then ignore anything further that comes to you other than a LBA or MCOL (NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #5 explains acronyms).

    If you want further advice you need to be answering questions posed by regulars - who are actually trying to help you.
    Originally posted by Umkomaas
    Thanks very much for this. Again, forgive me if i'm missing something blindingly obvious (I have gone throught the NEWBIES thread). But I am not sure how to find out who the PPC is and how to contact them? Would it be easier to call them to make this process faster. As my DRP letter says that action will be taken if no response is made by tomorrow).
    • nosferatu1001
    • By nosferatu1001 11th Jan 18, 4:50 PM
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    No, you do not call them
    You do not care ONE JOT about DRP, again, this is covered in newbies threads. They have absolutely NO powers, and cannot do anythnig but write boring, crappy letters.
    Usually every DRP letter states the parking company.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 11th Jan 18, 4:54 PM
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    Thanks very much for this. Again, forgive me if i'm missing something blindingly obvious (I have gone throught the NEWBIES thread). But I am not sure how to find out who the PPC is and how to contact them? Would it be easier to call them to make this process faster. As my DRP letter says that action will be taken if no response is made by tomorrow).
    Originally posted by CALLUMFORBES
    The DRP letter should say who they are acting for ?

    DRP CANNOT TAKE ACTION
    DRP ARE SIMPLETON DEBT COLLECTORS

    Please do not take any notice of the DRP IDIOTS
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

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    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 11th Jan 18, 4:54 PM
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    Would it be easier to call them to make this process faster.
    You !!!8216;call!!!8217; absolutely nobody! You!!!8217;re in a legal process and you need all communications in writing. There is no purpose in contacting the PPC (other than address change) as you will always come off second best - they do this every day for a living!

    Who does DRP say is their client in their letters to you?

    Again, forgive me if i'm missing something blindingly obvious (I have gone throught the NEWBIES thread)
    Wow! How long did that take you?
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • CALLUMFORBES
    • By CALLUMFORBES 11th Jan 18, 4:58 PM
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    You ‘call’ absolutely nobody! You’re in a legal process and you need all communications in writing. There is no purpose in contacting the PPC (other than address change) as you will always come off second best - they do this every day for a living!

    Who does DRP say is their client in their letters to you?
    Originally posted by Umkomaas
    Apologies. The creditor/client is Euro Car Parks Ltd.

    Just weary of the timing of everything, and that any correspondence may go to another address. But I can send the letter off to them straight away, and continue to ignore the debt collector.

    Does my call to DRP earlier today change my position at all?
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 11th Jan 18, 5:02 PM
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    Apologies. The creditor/client is Euro Car Parks Ltd.

    Just weary of the timing of everything, and that any correspondence may go to another address. But I can send the letter off to them straight away, and continue to ignore the debt collector.

    Does my call to DRP earlier today change my position at all?
    Originally posted by CALLUMFORBES
    You write or email to them
    REQUEST CONFIRMATION

    30 Dorset Square
    London
    NW1 6QJ

    E: info@eurocarparks.com



    DO NOT TRUST DRP TO DO THIS
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 11th Jan 18, 5:03 PM
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    Hopefully you witheld your number!!

    And you contacting them may encourage them to think they got you wriggling on a hook and devote extra resources on your "debt"

    Follow the advice you have been given throughout this thread and only respond to a lbcca or Court correspondence as advised in #9
    Last edited by Quentin; 11-01-2018 at 5:10 PM.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 11th Jan 18, 5:08 PM
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    I have to say, if this is going to be another year
    of DRP rubbish, maybe there should be a new
    "Carry on " film ........

    Carry on scamming ... or Carry on timewasting ... Carry on Lying

    Shame that "Up the Khyber" has been done
    Last edited by beamerguy; 11-01-2018 at 5:18 PM.
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 11th Jan 18, 5:08 PM
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    But I can send the letter off to them straight away, and continue to ignore the debt collector.
    Yes. Do it electronically if possible, better !!!8216;trail!!!8217;.

    Does my call to DRP earlier today change my position at all?
    Doesn!!!8217;t materially change anything, but you will have tipped them off that they have you worried and you can expect more letters than you would have perhaps ordinarily received. But remember, despite their threats, they can do nothing.

    I wouldn!!!8217;t be too concerned about ECP either.

    https://bmpa.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203660432-Euro-Car-Parks-Ltd

    http://www.bmpa.eu/companydata/Euro_Car_Parks.html
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • fisherjim
    • By fisherjim 11th Jan 18, 5:40 PM
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    As my DRP letter says that action will be taken if no response is made by tomorrow).
    Originally posted by CALLUMFORBES
    Exactly what action are you expecting?
    • CALLUMFORBES
    • By CALLUMFORBES 11th Jan 18, 5:57 PM
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    [QUOTE=Umkomaas;73701325]Yes. Do it electronically if possible, better ‘trail’.


    Doesn’t materially change anything, but you will have tipped them off that they have you worried and you can expect more letters than you would have perhaps ordinarily received. But remember, despite their threats, they can do nothing.

    I wouldn’t be too concerned about ECP either.

    Thanks very much for all the help.

    After looking through some threads I have found the following response as a draft to send, would you deem this appropriate?

    Dear Sir or Madam,

    Ticket number: [insert ticket number]
    Vehicle registration number: [insert vehicle registration number]

    You issued me with a parking ticket on [insert date]. I will not be paying your demand for payment without receipt of evidence of the parking indiscretion.

    Please also send any further postal correspondences onto the following address ...

    Yours faithfully,

    [insert your signature]

    fisherjim - the further action states 'if you haven't paid in full or made arrangement to pay by ..., we'll pass your file to our client with a recommendation they take court action against you
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