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    • top_drawer
    • By top_drawer 18th Oct 09, 2:07 PM
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    The London Mint Office - scam?
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    • 18th Oct 09, 2:07 PM
    The London Mint Office - scam? 18th Oct 09 at 2:07 PM
    hi,

    I have been seeing the ads on television a lot recently for a free Golden Britannia penny so rang and applied .... I received a letter stating that my appl has been assepted and its on it way.... where is the catch?

    TD
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    • PrincessPlaty
    • By PrincessPlaty 18th Oct 09, 3:02 PM
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    • 18th Oct 09, 3:02 PM
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    • 18th Oct 09, 3:02 PM
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1180975
    • musemad
    • By musemad 14th Nov 09, 6:36 PM
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    • 14th Nov 09, 6:36 PM
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    • 14th Nov 09, 6:36 PM
    This giveaway is a pile of rubbish spend your penny on the end of southport pier in a amusement machine
    That is all it is good for
  • Mely
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    • 14th Nov 09, 9:28 PM
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    • 14th Nov 09, 9:28 PM
    The London Mint office has absolutely nothing to do with The Royal mint, but they try to portray themselves as official. The catch is that they now have your details and you will be on their database, so that they can try and sell you their stuff.
  • tandraig
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    • 14th Nov 09, 9:32 PM
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    • 14th Nov 09, 9:32 PM
    The Royal Mint is in Llantrisant, South Wales! this London Mint is a private company who have commissioned coins. they will then entice you with a 'free coin' into buying more of the series!
    if you want to buy them fine!
    but i wouldnt!
  • kittiej
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    • 14th Nov 09, 10:07 PM
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    • 14th Nov 09, 10:07 PM
    Yes the Royal Mint is about 3 miles away from myself. they are the true coinage mint. Notes are made elsewhere.
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  • grahamt69
    • #7
    • 2nd Dec 09, 2:06 PM
    the london mint
    • #7
    • 2nd Dec 09, 2:06 PM
    the scam is that they send you coins 'on approval' that you do not want.
    you can email and write (recorded delivery) telling them you don't want any, but they still send them, together with demands for payment.
    the coins are worthless, just manufactured by themselves, who have no official standing whatsoever. They are a scam company hoping to con you into responding to them, then intimidating you into paying. Avoid at all costs.
  • BFB13
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    • 5th Dec 09, 9:05 PM
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    • 5th Dec 09, 9:05 PM
    I ORDERED THE GOLDEN PENNY AND RECIEVED IT I THEN RECIEVED OTHER COINS ON APPROVAL WHICH I KEPT, I THEN TOOK ANOTHER COLLECTION OF SILVER COINS PRICED £49.95 + P&P AFTER ABOUT 5 COINS THE PRICE WENT UP TO £59.95 +P&P WITHOUT ANY WARNING, I PHONED TO CANCEL THE COLLECTION AS I FELT THE PRICE RISE WAS OUT OF ORDER, I ALSO REQUESTED A RETURNS LABEL AND TOLD THEM TO CANCEL THE ORDER, ANOTHER COIN ARRIVED I PHONED FOR ANOTHER RETURNS LABEL BUT NEVER RECIEVED ONE INSTEAD ALL I RECIEVED WAS LETTERS DEMANDING PAYMENT AS MY CANCELLATION HAD NOT BEEN ENTERED ON THERE SYSTEM. ALSO IF YOU TRY TO PHONE TO COMPLAIN YOU HAVE TO WAIT AGES TO SPEAK TO SOMEONE IN MY EXPERIENCE UPTO 20 MINS ON AN 0845 No. I WOULD ADVISE PEOPLE DO NOT GET INVOLVED WITH THE LONDON MINT OFFICE.
    • welshmoneylover
    • By welshmoneylover 5th Dec 09, 10:43 PM
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    • 5th Dec 09, 10:43 PM
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    • 5th Dec 09, 10:43 PM
    I've bought from The Royal Mint and ever since I've been bombarded with letters detailing their many offers!!

    My recycling bag is full of their leaflets!
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  • Dyllane
    Hi,

    I have fallen for this scam! I ordered the free coin, was sent another one alongside, with an invoice demanding payment for £35. I rang the company, waited 18 minutes to speak to someone and was told that I would recieve a returns pack to send the coin back. I waited, recieved their letter which turned out to be just more offers and an application form to accept additional coins.. nothing about returns!

    I don't know what to do! It states on their t&c's on the invoice that if the payment is late there is a charge, 4% interest rate and an administration fee (but no due date). I am going to return the coin by recorded delivery and hope to recieve no further offers (as I have already requested on the phone).. but as their returns pack is more literature on coins I just hope i'm not trapped!
  • trumpton
    Hi - I answered this on the Vent forum. But in case you haven't seen it, here's a copy of the post.

    If you were sent stuff you didn't ask for, I understand you can keep them.

    From the Consumer Direct site:

    "The Consumer Protection (Distance Selling) Regulations 2000 state that unsolicited goods which have not been ordered and are sent ‘out of the blue’ can be treated as an unconditional gift; in other words, you can keep them or dispose of them as you wish. The Regulations make it a criminal offence to demand payment or threaten legal action to obtain payment for unsolicited goods or services."


    They do suggest writing to them and asking them to collect the goods:

    http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/aft...R_unsolicited/

    Personally, I would just write or email and remind them that it is an offence to demand payment. I would be wary of ringing because the phone line tarrif could be expensive and another way of making money.

    A complaint about the London Mint Office was upheld by Advertising Standards Agency in 2008, ie. sending people coins and wording the letter to make it look like they had committed to the purchase:

    http://www.asa.org.uk/Complaints-and...ADJ_45199.aspx

    Hope this helps.
  • lucyantal
    My late father appears to have spent a fortune on these coins from the London Mint Office - they persuaded him to set up a direct debit - and they took increasingly large sums of money and sent him piles of worthless coins... he was conned.
    • ceegel
    • By ceegel 26th May 10, 1:39 PM
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    The London Mint Office scam
    WARNING BEWARE!!!!
    Do not get involved with this outfit. They will send you items you did not order, and even if you return the item(s) they will still invoice you for them.
    Another of their antics is to send you an invoice for goods you have not received. Not big bills mind you, somewhere within the range of £20 - £40.00. Their hope is that you will associate them with the Royal Mint, and because the amount invoiced is fairly small, that you will pay it. ….DON’T! The telephone numbers on the invoice are non-functional, and there is no land address. The address on Google is Jessica House, Red Lion Square, London, SW18 4LS, however, don’t bother writing to them there because like every thing else about them, the address too, is BOGUS.
    If you receive an invoice for goods that you have not received, or merchandise that you have returned DON’T PAY IT!! Do not worry, nothing will happen to you. If you do pay, it will keep these rogues in business, and they will continue to frighten people - especially the old and venerable, because these are the people most at risk.
    This warning will be marked “Abuse” as soon as one of this company’s operatives see it. just like every other message about this lot. That must tell you something.
    YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. I can do no more than this.
    Last edited by ceegel; 26-05-2010 at 10:37 PM.
  • aconsumer
    London mint office is a scam company!
    Please people DO NOT get involved with this company. They are a nightmare. I ordered a 'free' coin (stupid I should know better!). I said no to receive other offers as I responded to their glossy tv advert. They then sent me the free coin and another coin and an invoice for £32. I immediately sent the full package back recorded delivery and the package was received fine confirmed by Royal Mail delivery.
    Next they try implying that the package was tampered with and trying to say the other coin worth £32 is missing.
    I am trying to get Trading Standards involved but it is a major hassle can do without. They are simply conmen - please do not get involved and get stung by these conmen.
    Any advice on how to nip in the bud would be great - but my worries are they have written a reminder invoice that mentions incur charges for late payment. Its starting to get worse now.
  • MADBOB
    Please people DO NOT get involved with this company. They are a nightmare. I ordered a 'free' coin (stupid I should know better!). I said no to receive other offers as I responded to their glossy tv advert. They then sent me the free coin and another ..........
    Originally posted by aconsumer
    I did exactly the same, and they tried the same scam on me. As long as you have your recorded delivery receipt, they are STUFFED! It is not part of the contract that YOU have to get "witness statements" or employ the services of legal proffessionals as evidence and/or proof of precisely what you have packaged for return! So the risk is all theirs. Dont give these scammers a single penny. Yes, they will huff and puff and attempt to bully and intimidate you into handing over money because thats what conmen do! They are HOPING you will give in and pay up because they havent got a case. Unfortunately many do give in and thats why they are a "business" with a £200M turnover.

    In my situation, they begrudgingly agreed to write of the fictitious debt as a so called "goodwill gesture" after I wrote a two page letter telling them that I wasnt going to take any crap. "Goodwill gesture" my a&%$ ! No apology though!

    Anyone who deals with these clowns needs to keep a file for all documents, receipts and correspondence so that you've got amunition for when they come after you. Even after you have ended the contract with these idiots, you still need to KEEP THE FILE (just in case)!
    • Owain Moneysaver
    • By Owain Moneysaver 24th Oct 10, 6:06 PM
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    The Lone Soldier - Help for Heroes
    In yesterday's Daily Express these poeple are advertising The 2010 Lone Soldier coin, yours for just £1 + P&P and the £1 goes to the Help For Heroes charity.

    In the small print it says if your application is successful ... further coins in the series "Great British Heroes" will be sent at the regular price of £29.95 + P&P for an unspecified number of monthts.

    Rather surprised (and disappointed) that Help For Heroes are lending their endorsement, but £1 x a limited edition of 50,000 talks.
    • anewman
    • By anewman 8th Nov 10, 1:01 PM
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    Rather surprised (and disappointed) that Help For Heroes are lending their endorsement, but £1 x a limited edition of 50,000 talks.
    Originally posted by Owain Moneysaver
    £1 for a charity, £30 for them, coin value couple of quid if that. Something seems wrong somewhere.

    There are two points that make The London Mint offers a scam. These are impersonation of an organisation http://www.actionfraud.org.uk/fraud-az-impersonation-of-officials trying to make you believe they are official like the Royal Mint. Also, I notice they are now trying to sell Gold coins as an investment in their adverts when the gold coin is pretty much worthless in the scheme of things http://www.actionfraud.org.uk/fraud-az-goods-sold-as-investment

    If the coins sold themselves they wouldn't have to resort to sending coins in the post to people and demanding payment. The Charity thing only adds to the scam I would suggest.
    • Owain Moneysaver
    • By Owain Moneysaver 9th Nov 10, 8:58 AM
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    £1 for a charity, £30 for them, coin value couple of quid if that. Something seems wrong somewhere.
    ...... The Charity thing only adds to the scam I would suggest.
    Originally posted by anewman
    I no longer have the original advert, but I don't think it clearly and unambiguously said that the charity would continue to receive donations for subsequent coin purchases.
    • trenners
    • By trenners 19th Nov 10, 9:07 AM
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    London Mint Office - final demand
    Hi folks

    I've received a number of letters in the past couple of months from this organisation to my house. However, I've never had any dealings with them and received nothing from them and as they've been addressed to someone else - someone I've never even heard of and I've lived here for 6 years and this wasn't purchased from this person - I've not been opening them and have been meaning to send them back as 'unknown at this address'

    Having actually gotten fed up of this junk, I've actually opened one and found within it a final demand for £45.35 as apparently payment hasn't been received.

    Now I've typed 'The London Mint Office' into the search forums and found this thread.

    Anyone have ideas of
    1. Why they've got my house address linked to this person?
    2. How I can stop this junk coming in future? - I'm supposed to be on the preferred postage list so that junk doesn't get delivered
    3. What I should do about the old letters from them i still have and what i should do with this demand? I'm certainly not going to be paying for something I didn't ask for and haven't received anyway!
    • KiKi
    • By KiKi 19th Nov 10, 1:04 PM
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    KiKi
    Hi folks

    I've received a number of letters in the past couple of months from this organisation to my house. However, I've never had any dealings with them and received nothing from them and as they've been addressed to someone else - someone I've never even heard of and I've lived here for 6 years and this wasn't purchased from this person - I've not been opening them and have been meaning to send them back as 'unknown at this address'

    Having actually gotten fed up of this junk, I've actually opened one and found within it a final demand for £45.35 as apparently payment hasn't been received.

    Now I've typed 'The London Mint Office' into the search forums and found this thread.

    Anyone have ideas of
    1. Why they've got my house address linked to this person?
    2. How I can stop this junk coming in future? - I'm supposed to be on the preferred postage list so that junk doesn't get delivered
    3. What I should do about the old letters from them i still have and what i should do with this demand? I'm certainly not going to be paying for something I didn't ask for and haven't received anyway!
    Originally posted by trenners

    1. No idea - maybe the person called up and gave them a false address because he was fed up with the post!

    2. You can't - it's not junk because it's an invoice for a scheme someone 'signed up' to, it's just addressed to the wrong person

    3. You could try calling them to make them aware, but it's unlikely they'll do anything. The only thing you can do - and MUST do - is to keep sending them back, saying 'Not Known At This Address.'

    You don't have to pay for anything - it's not addressed to you. However, DO NOT send back the final one you've received, as you've opened it and (petty as it may seem) it's illegal to open post that isn't addressed to you. It might imply that you are the right person if you send it back, seemingly opened.

    Just keep sending it back, Return To Sender. You can't do anything more other than calling them, but I suspect it would make no difference. You *could* write a letter, Recorded Delivery, with an instruction that the address is wrong - but keep a photocopy of the letter and the Recorded Delivery receipt.

    KiKi
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