Public Sector Pension Strikes – A JOKE !
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Credit-Crunched wrote: »I speak aside of nurses, police, fire, ....... etc who deserve MORE money
Anyone tell me what the top line pay for these 3 jobs including any overtime, shift payments, freebie transport to work (in case of police) etc and the contracted hours worked ?0 -
To be fair, the bus/train bit does not function as if it were in the private sector, as different companies are given effective monopolies on certain journeys, and are in some cases given large amounts of taxpayer cash to make the routes feasible.
It's also interesting to note that of all the things you mentioned, the bus/train staff are the only ones I can recall striking in the last 20 years.
That is because the other sectors are happy to have paid employment..0 -
tough one, in 'real world' they don't happen very often. As thank goodness we don't have many unions or members.
Or do Private Sector employers, who will feel the impact of strikes or recruitment/retention problems in their own pocket, prevent them from happening in the first place?0 -
Possibly because most of the private sector are not in a monopoly position. If they fail to deliver then generally there are others ready to take the business, which does tend to get one to sharpen up ones act.0
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Old_Slaphead wrote: »Anyone tell me what the top line pay for these 3 jobs including any overtime, shift payments, freebie transport to work (in case of police) etc and the contracted hours worked ?
http://www.rcn.org.uk/support/pay_and_conditions/pay_rates_20112012:www: Progress Report :www:
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Credit-Crunched wrote: »I love this somewhat bizarre notion that the private sector is all about factories. Lets go through a day of your interaction with the private sector.
bus / train to work = private
coffee on way in = private
buy lunch in supermarket = private
call into bank to pay cheque = private
re-fuel car on way home = private
phone up sky / electric to change account = private
If the private sector threatened strikes on the same magnitude of the public sector then this country would literally grind to a halt, the striking public sector will be no different to any other working day.
I speak aside of nurses, police, fire, paramedics, coast guard etc who deserve MORE money
The amount of over paid, over unionised, over self-opinionated self worth individuals in the public sector is sickening. I have daily interaction and I am amazed at the waste, both time and money that is apparent.
A huge wash through all departments, asking everyone to justify their job would make a few people blush and struggle.
Working longer = welcome to private sector
Paying in more to pension = if lucky enough to have one , welcome
NO paid overtime = welcome to private sector
Huge targets and workloads = welcome to private sector
Ruthless job cuts without consultation = welcome to private sector
And before you say but our jobs are hard to do when we are 67, tell that to the 68 year old cleaner, factory worker, call centre operator.
Really you aint got it that bad, and I hope these strikes prove to us all that even if you dont work for a full day the country will still troop on
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Originally Posted by Old Slaphead
Anyone tell me what the top line pay for these 3 jobs including any overtime, shift payments, freebie transport to work (in case of police) etc and the contracted hours worked ?
http://www.rcn.org.uk/support/pay_an...rates_20112012
But those on the higher rates are not nurses they are managers and trainers running diversity awareness courses (where they teach you to say chairperson not chairman but are nonplussed by the diversity version of human)
Nurses are people who deal with customers, treating the sick and injured, they get the lower bandings.
The agenda for change was a managers charter to line their own pockets at the expense of the NHS.
These managers are the ones who should lose their jobs and pensions for the state they have got the NHS into.The only thing that is constant is change.0 -
For many in the public sector this will be the third time their occupational pensions goal posts have been moved in recent years - in addition to the changes to state pensions. (Yes, I know the private sector has had changes too)
One thing to remember is that many public sector employees (particularly the professionals) don't really have an alternative employer. The NHS, education etc are overwhelmingly in a 'monopoly' situation as an employer. Opportunities for jobs in private healthcare or education are few and far between. This means that, unlike private sector employees, many public sector staff can't simply decide go elsewhere to try to improve their pay or conditions. Which helps explain why they're angry..Once it's gone, it's gone - so remember...
Pay for the things you need before you dream about the stuff you want :think:0 -
nicknameless wrote: »like the energy companies for instance :rotfl:
They may not be great, but the service was a whole lot worse when they were in public ownership.
Same goes for BT.0
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