Household food budget issues

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  • jackyann
    jackyann Posts: 3,433 Forumite
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    Teenagers eat enormous amounts of food! It's a good idea to bulk their diet out with carbohydrates.
    I think that what you are spending is probably quite typical. I tend to regard wine / beer etc. as a "treat" and not part of the general budget (although I do fudge it a bit as I use it a lot in cooking!)
    Your budget could come down with good planning, involving everyone in cooking carefully etc.
    But some of that depends on lifestyle: like organising a cheap pot roast to go in the slow cooker in the morning; making flapjacks for the kids' snacking instead of them taking a whole packet of biscuits to wolf; making porridge to avoid expensive cereals etc. etc.
    Loads of ideas on here & Old Style but they do involve time & oganisation.
  • double_mummy
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    maybe you could take control of the shopping and cooking for a month and prove that it can be done on a budget and then you can work together on it from then on

    put one day aside and plan out your meals bulk buy from butchers for meat.

    if you really want to cut down bake your own bread or find a bakery eat seasonally find a farmers market or grocers for high quality veg at a more reasonable price. lidls and aldi have good quality fresh veg although im not a big fan of their meat

    with lots of these smaller or independent shops you can haggle and make deals so if you know every week you buy 1kg carrots 10kg potatoes etc same with fishmongers butchers bakeries then you can see if they will do you a deal on having your basics there every week for 4 weeks for you to pick up at a cheaper rate and then add on the bits you want for each week

    unfortunately to eat cheaper you may have to put the leg work in but with forward planning and a bit of haggling will be be able to seriously improve on what your spending and not compromise on the quality
    The only people I have to answer to are my beautiful babies aged 8 and 5
  • Spendless
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    Leg of lamb is an expensive meat, compared to other choices. I live in a large market town with plenty of butchers stalls at a market that runs 3 times weekly. I regularly buy 3 joints for £12, usually 2 beef (silverside) and a pork shoulder. If lamb is included in the deal it is NZ, needs using within the next day or so and isn't a leg joint.

    You can get your shopping bill down, but you will need to vary what you eat. It doesn't mean that it's the choice between lamb and value-basic-smartprice sausages.
  • catwoman73
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    Try frozen, cheaper types of fish instead of fresh, and cheaper cuts of meat such as chicken thighs, pork shoulder or brisket and make sure lots of vegetables and pulses are also used.

    Make stews with dumplings to make them more filling for less cost. Have a cheaper meal such as omelette or pasta once or twice per week

    Fresh fish and lamb are probably two of the most expensive sources of protein available, so if you are having these twice are week or more, it is going to bump up your shopping bill, especially when feeding 4 adults.

    If your wife can avoid unnecessary impulse purchases, her bringing stuff home from work is probably the most efficient way to shop unless you have easy access to a cheaper supermarket. I think the 'shop once a week at a regular supermarket' isn't necessarily the cheapest way to shop.

    Also make sure your sons are paying a decent amount towards their keep - at least a third of their take home would be appropriate, and make sure they are also saving something on top of that.

    Far too many young adults are living with their parents, paying little or nothing towards their living expenses while their parents pay all the food and bills and struggle on much lower disposable incomes.

    The adult children are sometimes spending almost a grand or more on socialising and stuff every month – some even getting into debt on top of that.
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    we got a new Waitrose recently, not used a lot so some great reductions if you go at the right time, high prices but seems better quality, when reduced cheaper than the cheapest othe supermarket.


    Yesterday in Tesco, hit the reductions just as the meat counter dropped it's load.

    £2.22 Rack of lamb 3 portions(450g)
    £1.46 Rack of Lamb 2 portions (smaller eaten)
    £1.31 Belly pork pieces (730g) 2-3 portions
    £1.93 Belly pork slab rolled just over 1kg 4 portions.
    £4.40 Lamb Shoulder 1.4kg 4-5 portions.
    £3.06 Two ribeye steaks (400g), 1 eaten

    Lamb is expensive only buy now when RFQS
    Pork slow cooked and great crackling(shoulder pork good for this also)

    the chicken at tesco when reduced is starting to leach the bulking fluid so avoid them.

    One thing I have noticed is chicken wings have shot up in price, they used to be £1.80kg late last year, now they are £4kg.
  • arbroath_lass
    arbroath_lass Posts: 1,607 Forumite
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    Approved food without the referral!

    http://www.approvedfood.co.uk/
  • flea72
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    The 3 for £10 offers should feed a family of 5. The mince tends to be 500g so more than enough forma spag bol/chilli. Pork chops are at least 5 to a pack and the chickens are fairly large too.

    Indivdual fish portions are expensive. Its cheaper to buy fish and bulk it out. Either as a fish pie or kebabs

    Do your sons have two packed lunches and a cooked tea? I would be looking at giving them bulkier pack-ups,like pasta or cous-cous (cheap but more filling than, sarnies, crisps, etc). Or even taking flasks of home-made soup

    As already said. I hope your sons are paying for all they eat, plus rent
  • GobbledyGook
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    Do you have a market near you?

    We buy a sack of potatoes for £7 at the market and it works out vastly cheaper than buying individual bags. There's also a good quality meat man (judge carefully - one at our market is rotten, the other is really good) who does brilliant value meat. The potato guy does other veg. It's a bit hit and miss because it simply depends what he has, but they are much better value than the supermarket (as long as you don't mind squinty carrots). Bulk cooking can help as well. I spend 3 hours on a Sunday cooking and although it can seem like a pain at the time it's great on a weekday to know that something just has to be pulled out the fridge or freezer and heated up that night.
  • AnnieO1234
    AnnieO1234 Posts: 1,722 Forumite
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    First thing, do you have an asda nearby? I'm guessing that the loaf at £1.45 is warburtons? Asda have price locked it at a pound, and it regularly cycles at two for £2.

    Download the mysupermarket app or use their website to make sure you are getting value for money and check prices and offers.

    Don't shop daily. This is guaranteed to increase your bill.

    Look to buy meat wholesale, or from your local market. You will get a lot more for your money and without the bulking agents etc that a lot of the supermarkets use.

    Look to meals like pasta, chilli and casseroles that can easily be bulked out with beans, extra veg and even grated carrot.

    Buy frozen veg, it's usually healthy and only buy fresh veg in season. If you use a lot of potatoes get a sack for around five pounds. Don't store them in the fridge, but try to keep them dark and cool, they'll last you ages. Certainly don't be buying prepared veg or pre-cooked mash. You can make mash easily, just do some jacket potatoes in the oven alongside a joint or whatever, cut in half and the centres will drop out. Make mash as normal, divide into portions and freeze or chill until needed. It's a few minutes to do.

    To be blunt, it sounds like your wife isn't willing to listen to what you're saying. You need to thrash this out with her. Even the busiest people can take a little time out to put a slow cooker on in a morning, it's not going to take any longer than cooking up some chicken or steak. If she didn't spend as much time shopping she maybe would have more time to cook. Don't also be fooled by whatever discount she gets at work, it still doesn't necessarily mean that you're getting a good deal.

    There are a number of fish companies that deliver, you ought to look at buying in bulk and perhaps changing the types of fish for something a little cheaper. Obviously this will depend on what you're doing with it.

    The teenagers who are working should really be buying their own stuff for pack up, and doing it themselves if they're not already. You say they do heavy work, they need carbohydrates not just protein.

    Cut down on the alcohol, look for cheaper brands that are as good or cut it down to just the weekend.

    Oh and FYI certainly Tescos basic range doesn't have the nasties in it like msg, as does Iceland. (Even though I'm not inspired enough to shop there, it is an option!)

    FWIW I definitely think it's more than possible to bring your shop down. The main bit seems to be protein and just by way of example the other week I spent less than fifty pounds on 3 beef joints (with your size you might need 2 of these), 27 large chicken breasts no water (2/3 cut up is more than ample for a casserole, stir fry etc and 8 large rump steaks. Another example is I've bought 2 16oz ribeye steaks for £8 today on special.

    I know you said you were in a somewhat remote location but check which stores deliver (this may work out cheaper for you) and also investigate where your nearest Aldi or lidl is.

    Basic ingredients like chopped tomatoes etc can be bought most easily from Aldi, lidl and value ranges. I really see no point unless you're serving them for breakfast in buying expensive ranges for these store cupboard basics. The same with flour, sugar etc.

    If you really want some extra help, collect all your receipts for a week and out them on the old style board here asking people to work out meal plans and how to cut things out. You will get some great responses and maybe will be able to prove to your wife that you really don't need to spend a lot to eat well.

    Good luck!
  • Goldiegirl
    Goldiegirl Posts: 8,805 Forumite
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    There's a lot of practical advice on this thread.

    But, as the OP hasn't been back yet, I'm still under the impression that it's him who wants to cut the food bills and his wife is happy with the current situation.

    There's no point in the OP showing all this information to his wife if she doesn't want to change.

    He's the one who wants to change, so I think his answer is to take over the shopping and meal preparation, and just get on with it, using all the useful suggestions that have been made.
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