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Premier Park - Brixham

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  • RobinofLoxley
    RobinofLoxley Posts: 296 Forumite
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    Old_Eyes wrote: »
    The land is owned by the council. Makes no mention of Premier Park.


    Title absolute 1 (12.09.2011) PROPRIETOR: THE COUNCIL OF THE BOROUGH OF TORQUAY of Town Hall, Torquay TQ1 3DR.

    Is the car park in question definitely the 'Marina Car Park'? There are 2 car parks there, the one actually closest to the marina is the council owned 'Breakwater Car Park' and the multi story one across the road is the 'Marina Car Park' owned by MDL Marinas who own the Marina itself.

    MDL Marinas also own Torquay Marina car park which has had many cases on this forum and both are infested by PremierPark.

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    Marina car park signs.

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  • Old_Eyes
    Old_Eyes Posts: 31 Forumite
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    RobinofLoxley wrote: »
    Is the car park in question definitely the 'Marina Car Park'? There are 2 car parks there, the one actually closest to the marina is the council owned 'Breakwater Car Park' and the multi story one across the road is the 'Marina Car Park' owned by MDL Marinas who own the Marina itself.

    MDL Marinas also own Torquay Marina car park which has had many cases on this forum and both are infested by PremierPark.

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    Marina car park signs.

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    This car park is definitely Brixham Marina and I was originally under the impression it was, as you say, owned by MDL marinas.


    However, the freehold title (DN615127), is listed as follows:


    (12.09.2011) The Freehold land shown edged with red on the plan of the above title filed at the Registry and being Marina Car Park, Berry Head Road, Brixham.




    Whether or not MDL own a lease on this plot of land, I could not establish that. Yet.
  • Old_Eyes
    Old_Eyes Posts: 31 Forumite
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    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    If you have not yet submitted your POPLA appeal, add another point that the land in question is Council-owned, therefore (whatever the operator says about it) the land is not 'relevant land' as defined in the POFA 2012. And therefore, the registered keeper cannot be held liable. Then show an embedded image of the entry/and or map you got from the Land Registry where it names the Council as landowners.

    You can't add new stuff if you've already submitted a POPLA appeal, BTW; they won't let you.



    Thanks CM, for those two tips. I haven't submitted just yet as I want to get as much for the case as possible.
  • Old_Eyes
    Old_Eyes Posts: 31 Forumite
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    In fact I've looked again at Land Registry


    Address:
    Marina Car Park
    Berry Head Road
    Brixham


    Tenure:
    Freehold


    If a lease had been granted, then this would need to be registered too. I'll get to the bottom of this one.
  • RobinofLoxley
    RobinofLoxley Posts: 296 Forumite
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    Maybe MDL Marinas lease the car park from the council.
  • Old_Eyes
    Old_Eyes Posts: 31 Forumite
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    RobinofLoxley wrote: »
    Maybe MDL Marinas lease the car park from the council.



    That seems most likely. I've managed to acquire a copy of the lease. But have to wait in the post.
  • Old_Eyes
    Old_Eyes Posts: 31 Forumite
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    On the front page of the POPLA appeal, it asks for Motorists Name. The newbie thread says not to provide that, but these appear to be mandatory fields.


    Whose details should be submitted - the keeper? Who is certainly not liable?


    Their phone number? Who does not wish to be contact.


    I'm assisting on their behalf etc


    many thanks in advance
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    and the answer (aS USUAL) is in the newbies STICKY THREAD and also in other posts by COUPON-MAD on this topic

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    THE APPEAL IS SAVED AS A PDF AND UPLOADED UNDER OTHER on the popla website

    there is no need to answer anything other than THE KEEPER and I dont see why any valid telephone number should be provided either

    no paperwork is filled in , so the popla pages are irrelevant as they are not used
  • Old_Eyes
    Old_Eyes Posts: 31 Forumite
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    Thanks Redx
  • Old_Eyes
    Old_Eyes Posts: 31 Forumite
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    Redx wrote: »
    and the answer (aS USUAL) is in the newbies STICKY THREAD and also in other posts by COUPON-MAD on this topic

    in short

    THE APPEAL IS SAVED AS A PDF AND UPLOADED UNDER OTHER on the popla website

    there is no need to answer anything other than THE KEEPER and I dont see why any valid telephone number should be provided either

    no paperwork is filled in , so the popla pages are irrelevant as they are not used

    But what postcode? Make one up?

    I realise what the newbie thread says, which is what I referred to, it was more about the actual content.


    For instance - if a [EMAIL="keeper@email.co.uk"]keeper@email.co.uk[/EMAIL] is added, would I miss out on emailed info about the case?! Presumably I should make up a vague address.


    But what postcode? Make one up?
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