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this is interesting.
i spend on Amex almost everywhere, and don't mind having a non-Amex backup..currently Barclaycard Cashback Visa, and have a Nationwide Select Visa in the draw too.
like others above, i am skeptical.
not having S75 doesn't usually matter, but one day it could really matter.0 -
this is interesting.
i spend on Amex almost everywhere, and don't mind having a non-Amex backup..currently Barclaycard Cashback Visa, and have a Nationwide Select Visa in the draw too.
like others above, i am skeptical.
not having S75 doesn't usually matter, but one day it could really matter.
I agree. But if S75 really matters one day just stop using Curve and by then I'm sure the gains would outweigh the fee as long as it remains one off that is!0 -
agreed DD.. i can see some great angles.0
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unclearengineer wrote: »My question is this: As it is a pre paid card, is it still subject to the credit card fee you get charged when using a credit card in some places (like paying for road tax online, for example), or are you not charged at all, as if you had used your debit card?Evolution, not revolution0
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unclearengineer wrote: »Any other thought on it?
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5239514&page=29#topofpageEvolution, not revolution0 -
I never got told when it was being dispatched (i.e. March or Summer as others have said). I just got 'you need to download the app to get the most from Curve'
When I login to the app, I see nothing useful in there either? Other than 'Your card is on it's way'.
No information on when I'll be charged etc, not even a pre-auth done on my bank card.
Don't have an Amex yet - will just cycle credit card cash into savings for now. Will be interested to know what "fair usage policy" will be defined as. I imagine it'll be similar to Nationwide's 0% foreign purchases - £1 abroad for every £1 in UK or whatever it used to be. £1 cash machine withdrawal for free for every £1 spent POS????0 -
I haven't been able to find what the difference is between the blue and black cards, apart from the colour and the suggestion that the black will offer double Curve rewards. But, as I don't think we know what Curve Rewards are yet, it seems hard to know if it's worth the extra?0
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Interesting to see what it will show up on Amex statement for ATM withdrawals.
It will show up as a UK purchase with the description "Curve London".I haven't been able to find what the difference is between the blue and black cards, apart from the colour and the suggestion that the black will offer double Curve rewards. But, as I don't think we know what Curve Rewards are yet, it seems hard to know if it's worth the extra?
That is the only difference - you've not missed anything.I've ordered the card for £75 and it says that it will come in March. Honestly it looks ideal - I use my AmEx for everything except where it's not accepted. With this I'll be able to use it everywhere, as it makes AmEx appear at MasterCard. Cash withdrawals without a fee and interest? Yes please!
Fancy metal card? Yes please
£60 Tumi card holder thrown in? Yes please
The way I see it I've only invested £15 into this so as long as I'm able to charge £1k of otherwise Non-AmEx spend to my AmEx I'm winning. As the fee is a one-off you have a long time to do that (and in theory could withdraw £1k of cash although I'm sure the fair use policy will prevent that)
I'm fairly certain the card isn't metal - the website says it "looks and feels like a normal bank card".
The card holder also isn't worth £60. Even if you're the type of person to pay a large premium on basic designer goods, it's apparently available for around £30, so at best you've invested £45.0 -
Looks like potentially exciting times going forward looking through the T&Cs.
2.2 means they may never open to individuals though (unless said individuals are also self employed...)
2.2 Your Business Account. Your Account is a Business Account...... By opening a Business Account and accepting the terms as outlined in this Agreement, you attest that you are not establishing the Account for personal, family, or household purposes, and its use by you must be limited to business expenses.
The Curve Card attached to your Account is a ‘Commercial Card’ as defined by the EU Multilateral Interchange Fee Regulation therefore
its use by you must be limited to business expenses as set out above.
As they get interchange fees & try to grow a userbase, I suspect that's just in there to cover themselves in terms of EU/FCA etc policies - they'd shoot themselves in the foot if they invoked it. Also some promo images include payments for coffee/Amazon etc. You'd struggle to claim coffee for ONE as a business expense under any claims/recharges/expense policy!!!!!
Also - possible loss leader when it comes to future credit card offerings....??
2.3 Verified status.
a. To obtain Verified status you must complete the following steps:
Either:
.........
or
2) Be successfully approved for and activate Curve Credit; and provide supplemental business information.
Curve Credit = some form of overdraft/short term/payday loan style credit linked to your card? Nifty plan which would negate the need for an ongoing fee.
Linked to the 'fair usage' - it looks like spending limits may be put onto the account - so those of you with Amex etc can't just go for £Xk of cash withdrawals - given that you could withdraw cash in a bank branch by presenting any credit card (now so your Curve card, to get it added to Amex as a big 'purchase'), that seems a sensible precaution.
I processed withdrawals of several thousand before working in banking - nothing to stop somebody, in theory, bouncing between various branches where they hold a current account and requesting cash over the counter multiple times up to the Amex limit (i.e. 5 x £3k or £4k). The limits in Schedule 1, as well as a FUP, go some way to addressing that in that you'd have to go to a bank every single day to get your £1k, and probably be closed down under the FUP before you get to a decent amount. If you used it AS WELL AS normal spending, you'd probably get away with say £20k over the year for Amex (£500 of staggered cash withdrawals @ ATM x 40)
Referring to Schedule 1, table of fees, limits *at present (!)* are:
Maximum daily load £5,000
Maximum monthly load £20,000
Maximum annual load £200,000
Maximum single card payment £5,000
Daily ATM withdrawal limit £1,000
Monthly ATM withdrawal limit £20,000
Annual ATM withdrawal limit £100,000
these are for HIGHEST verification status - i.e. those that jump through a lot of hoops, and probably have a registered LTD company. What limits are for sole traders will be interesting to see!
* Highest card limits only available to users who have completed all Curve KYC / risk checks
Also the standard 'no gambling' to stop you buying £1k of lottery tickets on your credit card...
The following merchant category codes are restricted:
Gambling Transactions
Dating / escort services
Massage parlours
Automated fuel pumps
Direct marketing – inbound telesales
Interesting to see if they enforce automated fuel pumps - one of my old business cards did, and it was an absolute nightmare when my expenses from work were paid back into that account.0 -
Somerset_La_La_La wrote: »Also some promo images include payments for coffee/Amazon etc. You'd struggle to claim coffee for ONE as a business expense under any claims/recharges/expense policy!!!!!
If you're self-employed, you make the business expense policy though! I doubt HMRC would accept Starbucks purchases as a write-off against tax (I can see a joke in there somewhere...), but there's nothing stopping your "business" from paying for it.0
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