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UKPC Leaving site NTK - Unsure of appeal position

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  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,588 Forumite
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    One other issue to explore - often car park planning permission includes the caveat that the car park is also available for use when visiting other parts of the town. Worth a call to the LA planning department to check whether any such caveat applied to this particular car park.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    Could this be the next generation of the UKPC scam ???

    If you saw these clips on the UKPC web site and then
    they vanished, then you need to request UKPC for
    all information they hold about the incident.
    If UKPC refuse or ignore you, then you issue a complaint
    to the ICO and copy in the BPA and the DVLA

    Next step is to contact the retailer who could well be subject
    to a data breach

    Who is the retailer ?
  • Guys_Dad
    Guys_Dad Posts: 11,025 Forumite
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    Does the site have notices advising of ANPR or other cameras monitoring? And get some evidence that disputes where one parking area begins and the other ends.
  • grovel
    grovel Posts: 9 Forumite
    Carphone Warehouse. Appeal submitted yesterday, will keep you informed (it says within 35 days). I will check the LA regarding usage, and also visit the CW store to establish the signage re 1) ANPR and 2) who owns the camera that filmed the driver (and other individuals in the area at the time) that was on the website.

    I amended the appeals template to add the request for any CCTV/Video/Images UKPC hold. Really appreciate all the support too.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 154,172 Forumite
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    Ignore a letter or email begging to know who was driving. Sit tight & wait for the POPLA code.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
     Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • grovel
    grovel Posts: 9 Forumite
    Received a letter today, assumed it was the POPLA code. However, it appears to have been cancelled, on the basis of a slightly modified template appeal on the MSE site.

    So worry over, and strangely they must have some concern over the enforceability of this. I did request copies of the video and photographs which may have been a factor.

    So a big thank you again to the experts here, fantastic help, and... a result!

    G
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,588 Forumite
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    Good result. :T

    Did you realise that UKPC are in much trouble with the DVLA - currently banned from access. While no one is sure the precise reason, I've read one suggestion that it might be over some CCTV App they were using to film site leavers.

    Might fit in with them hastily cancelling your ticket.

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2018/04/ukpc-banned-by-dvla.html
    on the basis of a slightly modified template appeal on the MSE site
    Can you share with us the modification made, please?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • grovel
    grovel Posts: 9 Forumite
    I am the keeper of the vehicle which you claim, received this purported 'parking charge'. There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. I am not liable and I believe that your signs fail the test of 'large lettering' and prominence, as established in!ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis.!Your unremarkable and obscure signs are in small print and the [STRIKE]onerous [/STRIKE]terms are not readable.

    Should you fail to cancel this PCN immediately, I require the following information with your template rejection:

    1. Does your charge represent damages for breach of contract? Answer yes or no.
    2. Please provide dated photos of the signs that you say were on site, which you contend formed a contract.
    3. Please provide!all!photographs / images / videos taken of this vehicle.

    I am alarmed by your contact and I do not give you consent to process any data relating to me, or this vehicle. I deny liability and will not respond to debt collectors. You must consider this letter a Section 10 Notice under the DPA, and should you fail to respond accordingly, your company will be reported to the Information Commissioner.

    I have kept proof of submission of this appeal and will also be making a formal complaint to your client landowner.

    If you are a current BPA member, send me a POPLA code. If you are an IPC firm, cease and desist with all contact.

    Yours faithfully,
  • kryten3000
    kryten3000 Posts: 606 Forumite
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    Is this Milton Keynes by any chance?
    Always remember to abide by Space Corps Directive 39436175880932/B:
    'All nations attending the conference are only allocated one parking space.'
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    grovel wrote: »
    Received a letter today, assumed it was the POPLA code. However, it appears to have been cancelled, on the basis of a slightly modified template appeal on the MSE site.

    So worry over, and strangely they must have some concern over the enforceability of this. I did request copies of the video and photographs which may have been a factor.

    So a big thank you again to the experts here, fantastic help, and... a result!

    G

    WELL DONE :beer:

    What can we say about UKPC ...

    Hapless ex clamper retards and now on their second
    DVLA ban, we do not see the BPA terminating UKPC
    which makes the BPA a very dubious organisation and
    not fit for purpose as an ATA
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